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What do you guys think the purpose of all these mass layoffs were? You REALLY believe it was because these companies didn’t need the staff? Couldn’t afford the staff?

No it’s to create a false sense of desperation in order to hire back the same staff with the same skill set and years of experience at a much lower rate because we all have mortgages, car payments, feeding ourselves and managing our debt to worry about

It’s the EXACT same playbook that was used in 2008 and were all just humpty dumping along wallowing in the true reality of how much control we have over our own survival and existence … why? Because those who profit off these types of maneuvers are the same ones writing and passing the laws about them.

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Trying to reset the market, offer low salaries and then say no one wants to work when they got no applicants or bottom of the barrel. You get what you give. Companies still think it’s the 1970s and people will stay for 40 years making the same amount of money. Companies never had any loyalty and now employees don’t either. Problem is there’s a lot of people who will take anything right now which gives jobs no incentive to raise salaries. They’ll realize when they see the type of candidates they hire lol

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I don’t know what’s going on with salaries but it’s crazy! Everything is insultingly low.

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Pharma salary bands are generally higher across the board. From my experience the larger bumps in salary start around the MS level.

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I recently went though an interview where posted salary range was 75-90k but I was told they were easily able to do low 90s (which means they can probably go 95-100k. I think Companies are starting to put lower salary ranges as a starting point for negotiation. Whatever you see, ask for more.

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I agree, as a recruiter I am often briefed by the hiring team that the budget for the role is higher than what is then posted on the company's advertisement.

I would advise asking around to try to gauge what peers are making if you are unsure of the current market rates, or of course even better, speak with a recruiter (it's our job to negotiate the best possible package for you!) but do be honest with us as the more we know the more we can help

Pay peanuts, get monkeys. Best of luck to them getting someone competent/not desperate in that role

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I’ve noticed IPG Health posts salaries 20k below what they’re actually paying these roles. Salary for AS in NYC is closer to 90-120k.

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can confirm, i was keeping tabs on the ranges as soon as the legislation went into effect. shortly after they posted reasonable ones, they backtracked and put out what you see now, in addition to having nearly no listings. i just got hired at an omnicom agency 2 months ago as an AS and the salary is 110k

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This also feels insultingly low.

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It’s not! It’s just what they list.

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That’s because IPG Health has a different account team structure, I think? It’s like they have a Group Account Supervisor role—which is like an Account Director?

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they have account director at IPG and group account supervisor at OHG (which actually just changed to VP, account supervisor) not sure why but they’re offering VP at a title earlier now.

those roles are homologous though and the pay you should look for between each should be the same

Account supervisor is the same at both

I saw that posting and thought it had to be wrong. That’s too low in other markets besides NYC

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So what would be the market standard salary for an account supervisor / account director on a pharma account in nyc?

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They're two different levels at some agencies, but I'd call that range 100-130k.

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I work at mccann Canada and make 92 as a director lol. (Promoted internally though). Is this range considered a low salary for an AS role in the states? Or is it because it’s pharma it pays more?

But Canada and Europe pay way less

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