US/Canada based fishbowlers, I'd love some insight. How do you feel about the fact that most jobs only give 10ish vacation days off a year and no state-paid parental leave? I'm based in Europe and as part of my Masters, I'm currently studying the concepts of work/life balance and the ideal worker norm (the covert norm that employers expect you to adhere to e.g. Work is top priority, devoted to work, always available, never lets other commitments get in the way of work, goes above and beyond...

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You're asking me to describe how I feel about breathing air. We are devoted to capitalism and individualism, baby. No one is "making me" work. I can take as much unpaid time as I want in this lifetime and accept the consequences. Or I can make sacrifices and enjoy a high standard of living. The choice is mine.

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I have 5 weeks of vacation, more sick days per year than I could use in 4 years and 16 weeks of paid maternity/paternity leave. Not all US companies are bad. I wouldn’t work for one that doesn’t provide good benefits.

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I don’t know to be honest. I would eventually like to start my own company one day but those early years, no way I could stay afloat if I had to pay mandatory 20 days of vacation for everyone from the start. Maybe if firms with a certain revenue and headcount but you couldn’t legislate across the board. I don’t buy into the mindset of if you use your vacation days, you are less of a worker. I know some places treat their employees like that but I wouldn’t ever work at a place like that. My vacation days are part of my comp package and I will use them.

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Please let’s not conflate US and Canada in this context.

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I think these things are more problematic in blue collar jobs.

Does the state pay parental leave for the most part in Europe? It is offered broadly for white collar jobs in the US and the company pays. Probably less weeks in the US on average though.

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I’m a dual 🇨🇦🇺🇸 citizen and the US policy around parental leave is far inferior.

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I've had four weeks of vacation since I was 25 years old (CPG company, Canada) and now it's a deal breaker for me in every negotiation. I mention that my husband's family is still in Europe and being able to have that guaranteed time to visit his aging parents/grandparents is essential. Been at two companies since and haven't had a problem getting the 4 weeks.

10 days is a crime. This is why there is no great resignation in Europe. Their jobs aren't their lives.

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I have worked for 2 Government Agencies, a private company and PwC. I have had 15-30 days vacation, plus 10-15 Holidays and sick time from 10 days to unlimited. I am not sure where the 10 days you quote comes from. Many large companies have pretty good parental leave. In your research you may want to also take a look at both gross pay and take home pay as compared to most European countries. As the saying goes work hard, play hard.

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Not true, FAE. I spent years in the manufacturing industry and worked for and with multiple global organizations plus small town $100M orgs. 10 days for hourly is completely standard. Almost all salary get 15 or above because they have the option to negotiate.

As a professional I’ve always had at least 15 vacation days plus 5 sick days plus holidays. Who only gets 10 days?

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My first job in the US was as a line worker in a factory. I got ZERO days off. Once I got promoted, I got 10 days off and the way HR presented it was as though I should be overjoyed.

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Never had less than 23 days PTO in my 10 years and 3 firms…

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I'm especially interested in how the pandemic has impacted your feelings on work/life balance and the presence or absence of pressure you've felt to continue to produce and perform.

Given that a lot of you work with companies who give more PTO or you've negotiated for it, how easy is it to use it? Do you ever find you've to make the work up in personal time? I've read a lot about how taking time off or availing of any flexi-working arrangement can create this perception that you are less devoted than others and that can cause all kinds of negative consequences, especially for women. We're taking wage penalties, reputational damage, career stagnation, etc. So, people tend to go all in and convince themselves they love work being the central focus of their life (despite it causing possible conflict with their personal life), take the flexi time and deal with the consequences (women tend to do this more) or present this outward image and pass as an ideal worker, but really you're making things flexible when you can without broadcasting it (men tend to do this more). A lot of these studies are based in the US, which is why I value your input.

I will add, however, that the lack of mandated parental leave is horrible. A lot of companies are starting to do better - i only got two weeks paid paternity leave when my first was born but that went up to six after my second. The big tech companies in particular are doing really well in this regard.

On average though it's atrocious and one big change i would make if i could.

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Another factor in the US is that health insurance is tied to your job. People without health benefits often don’t make enough to afford healthcare on the marketplace, but make too much to qualify for Medicaid in many states. You work even when sick because you either can’t afford to take time off to see a doctor or can’t afford the medical bills, or both.

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