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Hi all, recently in touch by Spotify recruiter for a Sec Engineer position for remote EU and was told that range was 60-80 out of base salary and equity. Had 2 years of security experience out of my 4 years. Was also told that there is no bonus scheme or no sign in bonus 😕 Not sure how I feel about this tbh.
What do you think?
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We didn’t fumble it. We had the ball stripped out of our hands.
"We" didn't fumble anything. We kept everything running remotely, only for private equity and holding companies to flip out when their business model couldn't adapt as well, and strong-armed corporate leaders to force everyone back to the office to prop up their commercial real estate holdings.
It's never been about productivity or even what makes sense, only about corporate greed.
Yep they loved it when it worked for them. The same CEOs that said it doesn't work for their business before the pandemic changed real quick when it would affect the bottom line.
Nah it's holding companies, leases and the real estate market forces pushing CEOs to issue mandates and lie about "collaboration." Work in experiences and live events and you'll be able to work from anywhere. I never go to the office.
Same, but without the going in part. Understand that CEOs are trying to protect a secondary economy: commuting costs, $7 coffees, $16 salad bowls, and yes... office leases. This equals hundreds of billions of dollars per year. You think they are just going to let that go so you can work from your home? Nah... get in there and "collaborate. " ;)
I don’t think wfh was ever the default. It was just a temporary solution during the pandemic.
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Because they are STILL paying for office space if they don’t own it
I think wfh also affected the small businesses around them. With no traffic around meant no lung orders, dry cleaning as much. If economically affected them so things may have had to change as well.
Let's face it any employer who mandates full RTO has a CEO who's either out of touch with the last 15 years or is being pressured to account for all the money they sank into a bug building with the company's name on it. RTO is covering for their bad management.
Seems hybrid is the norm now, so better off than we were before.
Yea agreed - dont love it would rather be home 5 days a week like before but at least being home some days while being in the office others is better than 5 days a week in office
It's still early years for the remote work revolution. There's no turning back. RTO mandates have failed, will continue to fail and as the older generation retires, wfh will again become the norm.
Wfh will go down in economic history as the greatest thing since sliced bread. Just think about it, people providing real economic output without stepping out of their pyjamas. Literally. It's genius.
Gen Z and A entering the workforce will be the straw that breaks the proverbial camel’s back
Tax breaks for RTO
RTO was only implemented because it allowed middle class citizens to acquire and build wealth too easily. We didn’t fumble anything, the average remote worker is able to save, or invest a higher percentage of their income. The middle class is an engine that needs to stay liquid and constantly throttle money throughout the economy. When you’re remote you don’t have to be a part of that engine to the extent needed for the top1% to benefit.
#1 Reason I quit NCR back in the day - pre pandemic, boss would literally just keep us there til 5 (even if we had nothing to do) for “visibility”. I lasted 7 months before I bolted out the door (this was the duluth days). One of the worst companies / jobs i ever had.
That being said, Im sorry OP - not shocked you work for that company -
Multi industry collusive effort to stave off the economic revolution that started during the pandemic. Tired commuters consume the most.
I think it’s a mixture of people abusing it… I’ve seen so many TikToks of people doing everything but working while at home.
And it’s the office space. My company had just bought 2 floors in a building for us before the pandemic and now they are requiring us to be in office 3 days… It was originally just 1 day a week, then 2… I give it until 2027 and we’ll be back full time.
I think most of it is driven by the fact that particularly large organizations have invested heavily in leasing and doing up buildings, then Covid came along and forced their hand meaning everyone who could needed to work from home, this was not a choice for the company. Since Covid organizations have been striving to justify the expense of the buildings, the only way to do that to get people in the office.
People stopped spending money in the city centres… so they had to put a stop to that. Food places, work spaces, regular shops.
Because the corner deli is tip of the iceberg… knock on effect with all other businesses also not making money… government needs to collect them taxable profits
WFH isn’t dead, but it’s on life support. Mostly because of 1. CEOs who are fossils and too set in their ways to make adjustments that actually benefit the workers. They may say the culture is improved when people are together but that’s a crock, the issue is that they don’t want to adjust their thinking and move into the 21st century. 2. Many of these companies have leases or are paying massive amounts for these offices that will no longer be used…that’s a no go when analyzing budgets. 3. Control; plane and simple, if you aren’t in the office, then management feels they lose control over you and what you are doing. They can no longer look over your shoulder and can no longer ask “why”. Why did you do this? Why are you doing it this way? Why is it taking so long? Why are you leaving early? Etc. People need to justify themselves and WFH took away lots of justification for layers of management.
Lack of labor unions
An organized labor force can push their demands forward.
Because people took advantage of being able to work from home. Know someone who ran around during regular working hours and then did their job during the even. Said, it doesn't matter when I do my work, just as long as I get it done. That's not the point of working at home. It is to work during normal business hours so you are available to anyone who may need to work with you.
If you have a job that requires collaboration, then yes you should be available during business hours. But there are plenty of jobs that do not require you to collaborate. And you are sitting in your cube for 8 hours grinding away at your work, in which case it really shouldn't matter where/when you do it.
Hybrid is the norm