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I wouldn't say this is underrated because it's well appreciated but... the food! SO many great restaurants; you'll never run out of places to try
Rising Star
Fair enough
Enthusiast
Disagree with the nightlife and friendship/dating point. This is highly tied to your personal experience which can vary based on luck and the type of people you are looking for/attract sometimes. Born and raised in nyc and I find the nightlife to be unmatched and the dating scene amazing. I can be casual when I want to stay single and when I do want to settle down, can easily find that as well.
OW1 not all clubs close at 4 🥳
If you think nightlife is dead at 2am you just don’t know where to go and that’s on you, not nyc
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Been to both and they’re pretty bad places.
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Underrated:
The amount of people from all over the world here. Unfortunately most New Yorkers will never try to branch out so they’ll never experience this. Especially if you venture to Queens and Brooklyn. It’s the only city that can consider itself to be international in the US.
Fashion sense: New Yorkers are the only Americans I have seen who dress half decent. Rest of the cities are an eyesore to people watch.
Attractiveness: related to above. The only American city I found with consistently. attractive people. LA I guess too but it’s a very Hollywood kardashian look if you’re into that.
And Dallas
I think food is severely underrated here.
You saying it’s in line with expectations is prob because you’re defining nyc as just manhattan. Every borough has so many smaller neighborhoods each with its own vibe. Queens has so many diff neighborhoods that are authentic ethnic enclaves. U can go to Astoria and have Egyptian food made by some Arab grandma and then go to flushing and be in an area where there are 0 signs in English.
Very unique densely populated maintained cultural centers. You don’t get that variety in any other city of the world. Maybe Hong Kong, London skews mostly Indian with other good spots. But NYC has so many diff cultures that have restaurant scenes reflecting their home countries.
If you've never traveled past Park Slope...you don't know BK
Spoken like a true transplant 😂
Where are you going out that it's dead after 2am? Also probably time to look in the mirror if the "average quality of person is baddd" This is a gross post
OP I appreciate this is obviously opinion-based but I think you need to broaden your horizons a bit when it comes to the rest of the US.
There are sooooo many hot people of all races across the country, and NY fashion is very specific, but other regions (e.g. LA and Chicago) are some of the fashion capitals of the world.
Chicago is not a fashion capital 😂 Iived there for a few years. It's an insult putting that up there with Paris, Milan, etc...
Rising Star
Here are some better words for what I’m describing.
Burnout, fatigue, depression . I think the incidence of these is insanely high compared to anywhere else in the world I’ve been and definitely seems a function of the work/career first, social/prestige hierarchy obsession, and the short sighted pleasure seeking “just here for a crazy fun time” mentality that uniquely defines NYC
When I first moved here, I did so with a motivation to succeed to contracted to my own overwork/burnout cycle. It took time to create boundaries with work and prioritize myself and create a positive relationship with my job and my city.
But this is a purely personal endeavor. It’s not something you can shrug off into a faceless entity and call it the city’s fault. Now I have an entirely different relationship with NYC, deeply personal and interested into my neighborhood. Entirely on my terms. I walk in the botanic garden twice a week. I participate in community groups. I trade bitters with my local bartenders.
There’s a tendency when you move here to try and take it all in at once, stretch yourself as thin as possible because the possibilities are so vast. It’s up to each of us to focus that energy and find the right rhythm for ourselves. On our own terms.
Restaurant scene is overrated. Lots of restaurants doesn't equal lots of good restaurants
Nothing is underrated imo
Yeah in cali you don't know a scavenger hunt to find good restaurants. They all got it
Given the gender imbalance here, I think dating is a lot better for men than it is for women
Rising Star
It’s crappy for both. Trust me. Just a lot of mediocre hookups if you’re top 20% Hollywood esque in looks as a dude. But even then nothing serious usually comes out. If not good looking I doubt even that is true for men after watching some guy friends
Rising Star
The food is sooo good! It’s definitely a factor when looking at other places. Tons of ppl and whatever night life you want, you can find. There is a huge dating scene that is filled with temptation. Early 20’s - 30’s or if your single. Not a place to raise a family or pick out a starter home. It’s a playground to launch your career and eventually move out after 5-10 years. That’s my observation. Jump on the carousel the. After you’re done going round and round, let the next wave of ppl give it a try.
Pro
Nightlife: Europe clubs also don't start until like 2am, when everyone starts going (probably because everyone has long and late dinners?) Clubs here get packed around 12a. So if you do the math on duration, it kinda evens out.
Dating / friendship: I can see that in relationship. It's hard to make friends here. People are always looking for the better one, so this mindset definitely spills over to dating. I am female and I didn't really have that problem (and my perspective may be skewed). I have always been able to get into relationship...
I wouldn't trade NYC for anything else. Pay, the melting pot of people, entertainment, etc. The pros outweighs the cons (dirty / some unsafe streets, people being busy, etc )
Pro
Food here slaps tho
Ad agency people are overrated
I think you need to broaden your horizon. There are a lot of things going well into sunrise and beyond, you just have to dig a little. Your experience in terms of friendships is likely a product of the limited experience you're having as well. Join associations and clubs, there are so many based on sports, music, art, language, etc.
Rising Star
Oh Arthur, you silly silly man 👆🏻
I think the gardens/parks are underrated in New York. And not the big official parks, but the way there are gorgeous little pocket gardens almost every block of the city. It’s easy to overlook them but they really are stunning and I’ve never seen another city with anything quite like them.
I thought the same then I visited Amsterdam
I think Manhattan is overrated and Brooklyn specifically some areas like Prospect Park deserve more credit.
I feel like the longer you live here the more you think this way. Manhattan is where people cosplay as “New Yorkers,” Brooklyn is where we actually live.
Pro
I see your point on nightlife, but I’d say most people are going to compare to other US cities, rather than European ones.
The fact that the city is so densely packed means you can go multiple places in a night no problem, even to different neighbourhoods with very different vibes, which is a rarity anywhere else.
Enthusiast
Also most bars close at 4 and there are lots of clubs going till 6-7 if not all the way to the following night. Not sure I get your nightlife point tbh.
The dating one is more valid