Why do you all hate the Bay Area? I mean San Francisco downtown area is not great and I can understand, but Bay Area seriously? Like Sausalito, Berkeley hills, Santa Cruz, Pacifica? What's wrong with these places?

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Cold, foggy and expensive. And I live there!

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I love living here 🤷‍♀️ I get to chose each weekend if I go snowboarding, surfing, hiking, partying, or brunching. It’s got everything, and the price ain’t too bad once you know how to work it.

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Shhh!! Don’t you realize you’re just increasing your own cost of living? Better to hate on the Bay Area!

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Costs too much and is governed by wacky liberals/progressives.

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Areas like Fairfield are still considered "Bay Area" and definitely don't fit that mold. Currently looking at relocating there or Vacaville from Ohio because of the culture fit for my wife.

The entire region isn't FiDi.

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They are all beautiful places, but any decent house will run you 1.5M+. If you have the money it’s fine, but if you don’t it’s a struggle to build a quality life.

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Had friends come and go and it seems to come down to a few things from what I’ve seen: 1) cost of living - planning for a family, home ownership, more space, 2) feeling like an outsider if you aren’t in tech, 3) philosophical differences in politics

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Anywhere that costs as much or more than New York should be as awesome, and the Bay Area isn’t especially close.

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But also, I do t like SF 🤷‍♀️

Expensive and cold, along with general CA political shenanigans. I don't mind the fog, but it being 57° in late July is not at all my idea of fun.

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$1M is nothing around here. That's what's wrong.

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just expensive af and a bunch of nerds

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1. Expensive
2. Boring, really boring (South Bay). If you have a family I guess it could work
3. Lack of diversity- people look the same, food tastes the same. Nothing exciting ever happens there.
For me, I rather raise my kids in Brooklyn where they learn how to live in a real world.

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You all need to come to the Bay Area and I need to show you diversity and fun things to do. It’s not 4 am night clubs sure, but it’s amazing for hikes and bike rides and wine day trips and beaches and art and food and other festivals.

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Too expensive. Conference hotels can run close to $1,000 a night.

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I love it in the Bay Area. SF is cold, foggy and inconvenient, but come down to the South Bay and it’s warm, lots of space, very convenient. Want to go out on a Saturday night, it’s an hour to the city. It’s an hour and a half to Napa. It’s an hour to Santa Cruz. It’s a drive to Tahoe. Everything is close by. And the best part, if you serve Bay Area tech, you don’t really have to travel or sit in long hours of traffic.

If you want to start a family, there is a ton more square footage down south. Houses are bigger and better than the city. Very kid friendly with lots of parks. Schools are good.
Easy to find help (nanny etc).

Plenty of fun: Great places to hike. Good restaurants. People are pretty down to earth and friendly. Weather is super.

The only downside is cost, but if you plan it right that can be an asset building strategy. We made a lot of our net worth by investing in real estate at the right time, and now we keep rolling it forward

There is another big benefit - opportunity. If you live in the Bay Area; you are constantly being poached by Bay Area clients. The sheer number of opportunities are out of control. Also if you live in the right area, your neighbor will be a CXO or a VP/SVP. So the connective tissue of the network is really high.

Personally , as a working parent I won’t ever move because it is the singular place I can avoid travel and not be driving 90 min each way. But admittedly I don’t think I could handle living in SF, further down in the South Bay is where it’s at for me!

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Sshhh. Pls don’t. Let’s continue hating 😄

Depends what age / stage in life you’re in.
I’m early 30s without kids and SF / Bay Area is the most boring city I’ve lived in. Most of it closes at 9pm. Weather is great in the winter, opportunities for day trips is also great, but day to day it’s a boring place to live.

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Have you considered east bay?

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Expensive….having to play human or animal game

Who did the doodoo on the sidewalk? Bi- or quadruped?

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They are both great

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