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I have a total 9+ work ex in Devops and Release Management. Did an executive mba with a goal of breaking into Program management but got recruited into Management Consulting . In this company for the past 3 months.
I feel that my overall skills are better off in a TPM/Program Management role.
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I don’t expect it. I think it’s rude to assume that someone needs to thank me. I have a job opening, I’m thanking the people for applying, preparing and coming in to talk to me about it. Assumably they thanked me in the interview. That’s more than enough.
When on the interviewEE side of the interview, I have always offered a “thank-you” email which in my estimation serves as confirmation that the mtg went well and I am still interested. Or not. And when in the interviewER position, I may not expect one, but I do prefer to receive one, for the same reason. And yeah, I’m a boomer, wanna take it outside?
It’s not about the thank you, but showing an ability to follow up. Consider it part of the interview process. I know we appreciate each other’s time, but show me you know how to distill a conversation. That’s a big part of this job—coming out of a meeting and understanding the spirit of a dialogue.
At least those have been the best thank you notes I’ve received, and the ones that have made a difference for me.
The secret is not every experience warrants something that profound. In those cases, it’s a simple note and maybe a follow up link to specific work you mentioned.
But if you go into the interview with this practice in mind, you’ll be better equipped to know if it’s a place you even want to work after the conversation.
@C2: You’re engaging in a bit of “whataboutism”. We’re discussing whether thank you notes should be sent by candidates to interviewers. Of course candidates are NOT “unpersons”. They should be informed in a timely and respectful manner if they did not make it to the next step. That is generally handled by HR or the recruiter. It’s not up to each interviewer to thank them for coming in to talk. But the candidate should write thanks to each interviewer. Especially if they are interested in the opportunity.
Sounds like a dumb thing boomers like op
It is never wrong to be polite.
I take it as a sign of your interest in the position. If you don’t send one I assume you’re not interested.
Ok next time you want to run the finance report just let your superfluous finance manager know!
But seriously why are y’all so upset about thank you notes? Just don’t send them if you don’t want. But hearing others people’s expectations is probably worth thinking about. You’re not changing anyone’s mind on an anonymous app
If you think taking 2 minutes to be nice and show that you can string a sentence together and have some semblance of social skills is too much of an anachronistic pain in the ass, then maybe I don’t want to work with you. 🤷🏻♂️
Love this
I expect it.
So if I don't send one, I lose the job?
It's a professional thing, rather than a generational one. But instead of a bland 'thank you', I enjoy when someone follows-up on something that we discussed in the chat. A piece of work, an interesting article, a youtube clip, or a music track. Puts them right at the top of consideration because I know that they were engaged and can offer a perspective. And if you're not following-up, you're missing out on a huge opportunity.
All these ghouls who would discriminate against candidates because they don't fit their personal cultural norms. Smh, no wonder this industry has a diversity problem.
It’s so interesting reading this thread. I’m surprised how many people find sending a simple ‘thank you’ such a heavy lift or antithetical to their character. Thinking they’re only to appease boomers is also so far from reality. Much of the hiring decisions by me are made by millennials. Not sending a thank you won’t cost you the job, but sending a ‘thank you’ was expected when millennials entered the workforce not too long ago (was for me, at least) and goes a long way. If you are applying for any role that’s client or external facing, it’s well worth sending one. It’s a demonstration of social skills
Yeah the (overwhelming) response of pretty aggressively conflicting opinions was far from expected 🤭
I don’t expect them, largely because they’ve fallen by the wayside, but I appreciate them. I think they’re the courteous thing to do for someone who spends time out of their day to meet with you and evaluate for a role.
Who ever said being they’re indebted to HMs? It’s a 2 minute email, why is everyone so pressed about this? Either send it or don’t, it’s your choice. But understanding the all perspectives here is important. You do you.
It’s a generational thing I believe. So I would say if you interviewed with someone above mid 30s, the safe thing to do is to send it in case they do expect it.
Fcb1, are you calling me young? You’re wrong but thank you
Yes. I think it’s rude not to send one.
The fact that some people expect them means that one should always be sent. You shouldn’t try to pick whether one person prefers one over another. Always send one and you never run into an issue.
Definitely. I always send them. Just was wondering how they’re perceived
I’m surprised how many people think a follow-up note is such a burden on the interviewee. It’s an opportunity to highlight something interesting you discussed or to expand on something you didn’t get to say in the interview... which helps you.
And it’s a few sentences. And no, I’m not an “old person.”
Honestly reading through the thread, it seems like the people who expect the thank you’s are super inconsistent with when they expect them (all the time v. if the convo was good, but but don’t be disingenuous, etc.).
I say send them or don’t send if it feels right for you. Personally I don’t send them, because that’s just not how I am. For one reason I LOVE my job but it’s just my job. If I send a thank-you, it not gonna be enlightening and just a formality. A waste of everyone’s time. And someone else said it but there’s a lot of ghosting on the Director and recruiting side. If my recap/thank you email is the deciding factor of whether I got the job when my portfolio and a great interview did not, then that’s probably not a job I want.
That being said I could see how this could be a factor for non art/creative peoples like, client managers, project managers, or accounts since I’m sure there’s a lot of those “thank you/follow up” moments with clients, and giving recaps after larger meetings.
I completely agree
I’ve found that entitled, ungracious candidates, if hired, become entitled, ungracious employees. Funny, that.
@BSD1: In my years of experience (I’m now a CCO), I’ve found that the candidates who felt they were doing the agency a favor by interviewing often became the employees who felt they were doing the agency a favor with every assignment they accepted. These people were painful to deal with and rarely lasted long. It’s easy to spot them in the interview process; they don’t send thank you notes. They come across as arrogant and entitled.
By the way, after meeting people in person, I always give them my card and invite them to get in touch in case they have further questions. The best people always follow up.
I expect it. It doesn't have to be long, but it's good practice. For you as the person interviewing, it also is a tool to recall what was saig
For me it’s similar to following up with a prospect or client: you want to restate the key points from your conversation that were relevant to your advantage in the meeting. If I can follow up I will, especially if the person has put the effort in to prove to me that they were invested in the conversation and in the role.
If the note is boring and blah, it doesn’t make a difference and I don’t care about it. So don’t copy and paste some platitudes because I can see through those and they don’t help. The only ones that I still remember are the ones that are honest and come from the heart. I once got one that was handwritten, sent half hour after our interview and said “you didn’t scare us out of the job. We want it”. I hired the team, we did great work together, won awards and we’re still friends years after that time.
Lots of expectations from candidates here. All you CDs, ECDs, etc. and ever send a thank you or directly contact a candidate to tell them they didn’t get the job? Or do follow ups to make sure your recruiter did their job? Yeah didn’t think so. Byeeeeeee
FWIW - some agencies have a policy that prohibit interviewees from responding. I’ve been told I cannot offer feedback or reply — I think it’s HRs way of preventing someone from saying something inappropriate. Regardless the reason (that was speculation) it is important to know this policy does exist at some places.
And also. I ALWAYS provide the recruiter with feedback. If they are good at their job is agnostic of my efforts.