Do you think white women who are feminists acknowledge white supremacy? Do white women overall benefit from white supremacy or not really?

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Interesting question. I feel feminism and racial supremacy are close cousins at most. But with your question I do feel White women get some benefit but not for being a feminist, it's for being White. I also feel if White supremacy got everything they wanted, women would lose so many Rights which they fought hard for. I feel this is evident now and we are witnessing their rights slowly being withered away.

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Attractive white women are probably the most privileged group in society (and maybe always have been in the western world). Does anyone really disagree with this?

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It’s probable that you don’t work in the corporate world. Women get preferential treatment that are equally as competent as men. Even better for them if they’re pretty.

Maybe it’s different in other areas of society but that’s been my experience in multiple corporate jobs.

Historically, no one really had “bodily autonomy” by today’s standards. There are probably areas where you were worse off as a woman and areas where you were better off. You were certainly less likely to be forced to die in someone else’s war.

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If you look at history, the early feminists were often closely aligned with the abolition movement. So there's always been that connection, down to the feminists of decades ago often having been aligned with the Civil Rights Movement. So there's that. Whether people calling themselves feminists today concern themselves with the issue is, I suppose, up to individuals. But feminism and racial justice have traditionally been aligned.

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I agree with the others that it's a complicated question. And I also want to point out that it's not a coincidence that the work of DEI has become synonymous with gender parity specifically. Historically, DEI being a 'race thing' is relatively new. For many financial corporations for example, diversity means more women. And the category of women has been severely flattened to mean "all women" assuming, falsely, that all women shared similar barriers as white women. Therefore any attempt to correct the gender imbalance on boards, C-suites and pipelines have focused on white women specifically. It's maintaining part of the status quo. "If we can't have a white man up there, at least it will still be a white woman" type of mentality.

The worst part of course is that these systems and corporations are very much built with not only whiteness in mind, but class too. And again, it's no coincidence that the feminist movement was popularized and pushed by primarily cisgender, white, middle class women. These very same women have then come to benefit from the work of gender parity disguised as DEI.

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I think that is a complicated question

Some white women who are feminists acknowledge the fact that white supremacy exists , as do some white men who are feminists. Certainly not all in either category. Of course, not all women of color acknowledge white supremacy nor are all women of color feminists

Do white women benefit from white supremacy? In some ways, of course they do. However, there is significant interaction with white supremacy and patriarchy/misogyny, so I many ways it is counter to the interests of all women, including white women.

And, a better society is better for us all in the end, whether we recognize how we benefit.

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The problem with this question is that there are many kinds of feminists with different sets of ideas, but generally speaking some white feminists DO recognize the existence of white supremacy although. White women also benefit from the existence of white supremacy since they fall under the same race, although people who hold those kinds of views typically share other reactionary ideas like wanting women to go back to their traditional roles in society. So in a way white supremacy also indirectly threatens the rights of women. It's a complex topic for sure. In short, "yes" and "sort of" are the answers to your questions.

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Is amazing how people who base their careers on the bs that is dei can convince themselves that it's real. At best you are fraudsters at worst intentional racists no better than traditional racists. Happy to see recent shrinking of your idiotic "profession".

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The status quo is “white supremacist”?

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Interesting question, as it makes the assumption that white supremacy is rampant and that some benefit from it. Consistent with my response to your earlier question on white supremacy, I have not seen it in the workplace or in my personal life - only on the news. However, the so called feminists (I don't like to use that term, because some see it as derogatory) that I am friends with are all about rights for women, regardless of the color of their skin. A few of them identify as white, but that doesn't change their focus on all women. I think they would say that being white doesn't hurt, but probably doesn't help them as much as being male would.

I work in the DEI space with a white woman and a feminist who I know acknowledged white supremacy. But the fact that she is allowed to make my experience at the work place a living hell bc of it is something I’m sure she would vehemently deny. And to some extent even believe.

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