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Hey 👋🏾 Black guy here, can’t speak to the Asian American experience in corporate America. But I have the misfortunate experience of dealing w/ workplace discrimination, and more frankly societal disdain b/c of my skin color and the ignorant stereotypes associated w/ it.
I too have also been held back in my career despite having excellent skills and project experience, and have been recipient of more microaggressions than I’d care to remember. The first thing to do is document any explicitly discriminatory actions that you’ve experienced at work - who was involved, when, where, etc.
The second thing you must ask yourself is do you want to rise up the ranks of a company you feel is actively holding you back in your career?
Best of luck to you…
“Lower the bar for traditional minorities” 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 oh, you’re one of those.
Then tried to cushion it by saying “I’m just speaking for my company”. I would love to hear OP’s examples of the black and latino people being promoted after “lowering the bar”. That’s so insulting when we’re most often passed over for promotions.
At my firm my team is all Filipino and Vietnamese. I have continuously been passed over for a promotion. Now do I think there might be bias in them promoting their own? Yes. But I would never feel jealous enough to say the bar was lowered for Asians to be promoted. OP lost my sympathy.
You should probably worry less about the “white boys club” and stop to reflect on your own issues. It sounds like you have a superiority complex that may need to be addressed. I’ve witnessed these same “traditional” minorities have to work twice as hard for promotions and equal pay only to have people like you disregard the sacrifices and hard work they put in to be promoted along their white colleagues. At the end of the day you are still a minority, not a superior minority. 🙄🤭
Hard to prove if you plan to complain or sue, because they can write their performance reviews in whichever way they want, and say you don’t meet certain qualitative metrics, like “executive presence”, “not enough experience” or whatever bullshit. I had gone through that. White people around me getting promoted faster, with much less experience. If you don’t get valued, leave asap
Yes, join a firm that values you for you. You won’t change their attitudes and no point of going on a war without any hard proof, so it is better to find a place that brings you happiness
Take note, record everything down! I reported sexual harassment and it has been awful. I am being retaliated against and ways that aren’t really reportable. They can have a excuses on why it was done. You have to make a complaint to HR to even start the ball rolling. You have to go through certain motions to even be able to report or sue. And, you definitely have to make sure you have your facts straight. The more proof you have the better off you’ll be. if you’re suddenly terminated after that, you could possibly have a lawsuit. I’ve only talk to the lawyer in passing. So I don’t know everything about it. However, there are federal laws about this. So there should be some reporting system within your state as well. Good luck to you. I know this is hard. I do not know discrimination in your life, I am discriminated against for being a woman. It’s always the boys club at work and boys talk!
The hard part is, part of my family owns a portion of this company. Not enough to make the decisions. I have everything documented. I have record on my phone for when any conversation starts. I am also looking for a job. I will not be able to take any business with me unless I can convince my marketing rep to leave. This industry is crashing around me with intrest rates increasing. I feel like I am in a rock and a hard place. I have alot more I could say, I just can't on an open forum. I just joined today. I’m trying to figure out if my profile is 100% private. 😕
Threaten to go all Pearl Harbor on their asses if you don’t get some respect around here.
So does the term BIPOC, @consultant 2. But it’s used commonly to exclude the plight of Asian populations. And let’s face it. EEO and AA aren’t there for Asian American populations either.
Please forgive my use of model minorities. It’s not a friendly term. Despite my best intention.
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Assuming all of what you’ve said is true - build authentic relationships with white people in your company that can advocate for you. The more influential the better, but genuine connections are more important and win in the long run. Day one task in any new environment for me. Hard work isn’t enough. If you’ve already tried that and the workplace is still prejudicial, then leave for an environment where they value your work and advocate for your career.
As a south Asian brown man I feel you.
OP you are a clown
Really sad how minorities are arguing against each other regarding which group gets the most unfair experience.
OP, don’t let any of those comments get to you. In a company culture like this, either be really tough to fight your way up to a position which can make meaningful impact, or be really brave to leave this toxic environment and join a platform with more diverse leadership.