Does your firm make allowances to billable hours for PTO/sick leave? Every firm I’ve been to has been “billing 9-12 hours a day until you make up the deficit.” That shit ain’t right, but curious if others have a different experience.

Anyone else have to go into the office? Despite the rise of COVID and no billable hours.

There's a lull in copy work across the agency right now. I know work ebbs and flows, but is there a point when i should start actually worrying about lacking billable work?

Any Deloitte people that can help with billable work for a BTA?

What’s your typical ratio of billable hours to actual hours worked?

Highest number of billable hours you have seen in a year?

What is everyone’s: (1) billable hours this year; (2) practice group; (3) year; and (4) size of law firm?

Billable hours... If I make $100K, which is ~$50/hr, how much does the agency mark it up? Double? If I’m dedicated to an acct, and work 60 hrs in a week, do they bill time and a half after 40? I assume that’s all negotiated in contracts, but I’ve never peeked behind this curtain before.

Recent lateral junior associate in brand new practice where I'm the only associate. I'm probably going to bill 1,500 hours max this year due to being very slow and taking time off for a delayed honeymoon which I disclosed during my interview process. I have been told my work product is good, I don't turn anything down, I participate in non-billable work, I'm responsive and I always let people know I'm available to help. Do I need to be worried about getting fired for low hours?

Monday morning and the only thing that goes through my mind is wow I hate my job. Between the strict requirement of releasing billing time daily, high billable goal and I guess a heavy workload (and everything that comes with living through a pandemic) it’s hard to start my day excited for work. And I hate it. Makes me question why I’m doing this for a living.

Looking for feedback on Meta work life balance. Current interviewing for a lead counsel role and would be coming in from biglaw. I’m trying to get a sense of what to expect if I decided to make the switch since I’ve never seconded or worked anywhere other than biglaw. Currently at a firm with 1950 expectation, which I barely meet each year. Getting tired on billing, late nights and non billable work but am still looking for interesting work, just with consistent M-F, 9-5. Sound possible?

Mid-30s first year and already tired. Should I look for a non-firm job? I worked in the corporate and government worlds before law school. Just graduated and working at a boutique firm, but I'm just...tired. I don't feel like I have the fire in my belly I had when I was fresh out of college, and getting just six billable hours a day seems grueling. I also have imposter syndrome and anxiety about messing up. Will I eventually hit my stride and feel energized by my work instead of drained?

Obligatory financial info post. 1) size of firm, 2) billable requirements, 3) salary, 4) bonus, 5) quality of life, 6) debt, and and 7) family/married/single. Go!

The recent most billable hours post, inspired me. What is your longest billable day? Mine was 56 hours straight with no break—and the partner was more than a jerk when I was saying no more at the 30 hour point. That was two 24 hour billable days back to back on my time sheet and on the bill, a 360 hour month, and 650 aggregated for two months. And it is one reason (of so many reasons) why this job can suck so much! At least I got a good bonus...

What are some of everyones’s billable hours goals as well as the hours you actually bill in a year, typically?

Question for Junior Associates, particularly from smaller firms (2-10 lawyers), Outer Suburbia office-Initial Compensation for a 2nd year associate in Family Law/ID - $80,000 salary, retirement benefit of 10% gross income paid by Firm, 75% of health (dental & vision too) insurance premium covered, bar dues, CLEs and Malpractice Insurance covered. Additional bonuses discretionary, 1250 billable hours expected - Fair or not? If not (again a firm 2-10 lawyers), why not? (DC/Baltimore Suburbs)

Just received an email the other day giving all staff an OT requirement for June.. kind of hard to get that many billable hours in when none of the work is available 🙄

First trimester pregnant and not feeling great- I’m a junior who just lateraled. I get to the office later/start working later, find myself naturally slower, generally uninterested, and demotivated. I’m so exhausted- I feel like my head will explode by only 4 pm. Does anyone have a similar experience? What were your typical billable days during this time? Did anyone make comments about you not pulling your weight? Any other insights? Thanks!

So who else here is experiencing plummeting billable hours and exponential weight gain since this whole WFH thing started? Bought snacks for 30 days, finished in 48 hours.

Been an attorney for almost 10 years, but recently moved from public sector (prosecutor) to civil litigation at small firm (5 attys). Firm doesn't have a stated billable goal (but partners aim for 1500 to have an "acceptable year"), my work is entirely dependent on partners throwing me scraps, but they have told me not to worry about billables while acclimating. Consider myself lucky or be stressed that I won't be earning my keep if I don't hit a certain number?

I'm a little confused about billable hours "requirements." Are they actual requirements like if you don't meet your 1,800/2,000/2,200 or whatever requirement you're at risk for termination or is it just to be bonus eligible?

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When you fly, do you try to make friends with the person next to you? What’s your best/worst story?

Watching the HBO show The Vow. Previously watched other cult documentaries as well. There are striking similarities between cults and company cultures.

Do you still wear a mask in Uber? “like” for yes. “helpful” for no.

I vacationed on a luxury ($40M) yacht this past week. The owner is a family friend and owns a Hedge Fund. I realized that in order to generate real wealth you have to own your own business. The small increments I get for promotions will never allow me to create real wealth. Starting my own business seems like it will cost my mental and physical health. The American Dream of making it from the bottom to the top seems “almost” unattainable. Anyone else feel this way?

Fishbowl gods, if you are seeing this, please add a search/filter feature to this app! Till then can we start a new salary thread for all of us who were late to ze party 😬? Never seen/found the old 1

Poll: Are you planning to help pay for your child’s / future children’s college?

If an interviewer grinds their teeth or clenched their jaw during some of the Interviewee responses, can one automatically assume that's not a good thing?

My boss is making me spend New Years Eve with him as a team building event - but it’s just me and him. How do I politely tell him no?

Random but looking to plan a bachelor party for my brother, most people are in the midwest/Chicago (I’m not) so we are looking at lake towns to rent a house. Any recs for towns that are reasonable distance from Chicago (1-3 hrs drive)? Looking for lakefront, plus a fun town nearby that at least has a few bars and places to eat once covid relaxes. Thanks!!

Has anyone negotiated rent? Property condo owner is asking for a 2 year lease so I'm thinking maybe a 5% lower rent than what he listed. Is that fair, or no? I have no idea what's reasonable