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Who is going out to big dinners today? Nonetheless, when we did it, we always just split evenly and enjoyed each other’s company.
I came here for this comment. Wtf are you doing going out with 10 people right now, OP?
Unless it’s an egregious amount higher, I think when going out to dinner with a big group you accept that you’re splitting the bill evenly and it is what it is. We aren’t in college, we aren’t going to line item a bill and split it up based on who ate what meal and who had a beer vs. a cocktail.
Amen. I was that underpaid person once, I’m not going to force my lifestyle on them now just because I make more now.
It depends, but with good friends divide equally - it all evens out in the end (ie over many dinners). Often if someone had way more drinks or food they will volunteer to pay the tip. Sometimes the waitress will offer separate checks at the beginning which we usually agree to. Would never ask them to take on that extra hassle though.
Separate checks when we split, but if it's a cheap place or a close friend I just tend to cover things because my friends tend to still be working retail/food service/are generally less well off than me and 20 bucks means way more to them.
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Be careful here. This is your view on the situation, and that’s nice of you. But you could be making your “lesser-off” friends feel poor or financially unstable to a degree. They may swallow their pride along with a free lunch. It’s a bitter - sweet feeling. I’d let them return the favor once in a while and when they do make sure a solid “thank you” is given. Like you said, their $20 may mean more to them than it does to you.
Just food for thought. 🙃
Split evenly. If someone eats or drinks a lot more than everyone else they can chip in more. Life’s too short. The Venmo later thing doesn’t work because the person who paid will never get fully reimbursed. Just deal with it at the restaurant or bar and move on.
Your last two sentences: depends on the circumstances and friend group. My 5-person friend group a couple years back always Venmo’ed me the same day
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My husband used to be that person who always reached to pay the entire bill, even when we were first married and couldn’t afford it. Even when other people said it was their time to buy. Even when other people offered to split. After children, a lot of that changes. You have more other expenses, and so on. Our social groups are all in the same boat. So, we all pay for ourselves, split check.
I used to have a regular dinner with friends. Credit card roulette (picked by the waiter) was the answer. Worked out over the long term.
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O1- the laws changed and now we can’t do that anymore 😢
If separate checks are too cumbersome (or if we got takeout), our group will have one person pay, send a pic of the receipt to the group chat, and then everybody will venmo in their fair share to that person without any issues.
Someone would just pay the whole bill and later Venmo request the rest. Can’t get any easier than that.
If you had richer friends, this would never be a topic of discussion
Honestly, if I can and it’s a smaller group, I pay for the whole bill and send Venmo requests line by line later. I don’t like sitting in a restaurant arguing about math line by line after we’ve just had a great meal. Don’t ruin the energy.
I prefer to split the bill evenly but if there’s someone at the table who say, ordered no drinks and the rest of us had cocktails I’d probably suggest to the group that we pay their tip or pitch in more to be fair. Or get the Uber home or whatever. If I decide to order an expensive wine or app that everyone isnt enthusiastic about I’ll also say Something like “I definitely want that so that ones on me.” If people are consistently costing you extra and not doing this, might be worth explaining to trusted members that you’d prefer not to pay for things you didn’t order.
I usually just split evenly with my friends, but I personally don't care based on whatever preference they have.
Easiest way I think is to have one person pay and use the app Splitwise to allocate the other person's bill. I used to be a server at one point and I hated splitting a bill 10 ways.
Im obnoxious and push for separate checks. Hate over paying. I don’t mind a group of 4 or so. But 10 i try and steer clear of.
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I ask for separate checks. I don't drink and usually don't do apps or deserts. Last time we split the bill evenly I ended up paying $80 when my individual check would have been $20‐25
Split wise app is a blessing. I use it on most of my personal dine-outs split with friends.
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Two options, either just start ordering as much as everyone else so you don’t feel like you are getting shortchanged, or calculate your total and pay separately. The latter is awkward so I tend to not do that specially when it’s a large group and no one else is doing it.
I known my friends for 10 plus years. Its always split for us. We are all in a place where the difference is insignificant.
When my best friend and I go out to eat we just order food with the intentions of sharing everything so then we can split it evenly.
I do not drink.
Food, share equally, for friends it's fine.
Drinks shared equally among friends who drink.
There are apps that allow everyone to put it what they are and it calculates automatically. I think one is called Tab