Has anyone ever been in a situation where you're try to negotiate base salary using data from Glassdoor, Salary.com, etc. and the recruiter says those sources are not reliable? What would you say to that?

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Lol they aren’t reliable because they’re self reported. Use the department of labor because that’s what they’re basing things off of, and then offset by using payscale as a comparison

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If anything, glassdoor numbers are lower because they use 5-10-15 years old numbers to average out, and those old numbers are way too low.

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Also just demand what you're demanding. Could be that they may have the money and are just trying to low-ball.

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Maybe use H1B data from the government?

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This is likely the best source as it is what employers submit directly to the government and not self reported (like Levels.fyi or Glassdoor). May not include all intangibles and may be even under selling the total comp

If tech, Levels would be a good place to start.

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Wow had no idea this existed

Not sure if using other people’s comp is really any leverage. Express the value you bring and thus the value you are valued at. Or have competing offers. There could be a million reasons someone else is paid more or less

Citing Glassdoor as your source is a sure way to tell the recruiter you have no idea what your market value is. Perhaps the real question is how to negotiate salary for a new job.

Exactly… what to do if the initial offer seems fair to you and aligned with the market? Do you still ask for 5%-10% increase in the base? If so, How do you defend it?

I don’t really cite a specific source I say “based on available data”. If someone asks specifics then I would talk about H1B data, levels and anecdotes from colleagues.

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