How bad it is to apply to a job shortly after you got into a new one? Like a few months. Do people honestly care about this?

I got into a job here at D thinking I would be figuring out solutions for the client's problem, but when the work gets to me it's 100% already decided what's to be done since I'm so junior. So I thought of applying to a strategy role here, thinking it might suit me better, but ran into this problem.

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I think you should sit tight and crawl before you walk. Assuming you are newer to consulting? Hence the junior role? No matter where you go, you will have to prove yourself if newer to the workforce

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Yea just find your way into strategy consulting

OP, if you're bothered by spending lots of time on Powerpoint slides, strategy consulting isn't right for you either. You will still be handling many details and lots of slide beautification. Consulting always makes time for slides, and may not be a chaotic environment where people just look for solutions.

I recommend you pause, think more carefully about what you like, dislike, want and don't want from a job. Then research job opportunities and then apply based on the findings from your research. Right now, while I can appreciate that your current job or service line isn't something you like, it isn't clear that your method for learning about other roles and setting your expectations accordingly is sufficiently robust.

Imo, your next job shouldn't be consulting at a big firm. It sounds like you'd prefer something more like a startup, with fast pace, many decisions and less focus on slides. Or maybe a tech firm with a culture like this. Look into s&o roles at doordash and revolut.

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Nothing that I'm currently doing is robust, I'm 100% lost. Thank you very much for the insights, they are very much appreciated.

I enjoy trying to understand messy information under high pressure, thinking about how to compensate for the lacking information, those kind of things that everyone I know would run from. So I have 0 reference in my life.

I'll start talking to people from those companies and see what I could do there. Many thanks 🙏

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OP I understand what your post is saying and I think people are being obtuse. I’m also a Consultant just aligning slides and I can’t stand it. I want to DO some work and get in with some actual intellectual thinking.

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OP you’re bang on with what you’re saying re: communication with the older generation. In my team as well, we have some military guys who think ‘young people don’t wanna work’ and so they use that authority in combination with what you said to just produce a response which ultimately has no relevance.

To your point re: slides - I actually have nothing to add because I am exactly like you… and to be fully honest, I’m great on PowerPoint so don’t actually mind doing it. But what pisses me off is when I’m not given the autonomy to create a deck when I’m told ‘create what you think is right’. Imagine this… I got pulled up because I wrote ‘Client Hours Required’ as opposed to ‘Man Hours’ on a slide to show how hours/days we needed from them for technical interviews. This detracts away from actual work and the ability to actually learn.

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I mean, do you think this is going to be different anywhere else? You will get that level of responsibility within 2 years, which is far faster than most places.

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What bothered me the most was the productivity. Quite low, at least from what I know I can do. But I'm even being praised for what I'm delivering, in more than one project at that. I spend most of my time at work doing some studying because there's so much time.

I can still focus because I take the work very seriously, but it does bore me to death. Felt 0 pressure even when they threw me at 2 completely different projects with 0 reparations or prior knowledge of those areas. I think I'm going to listen to the advice of another friend here and start talking to startups and see if I can find something I'm invested on. While I'm here in Deloitte I should be asking around to be in different projects as well, looking for a right fit.

Many thanks friends 🙏

I understand what you’re saying I think. It’s not that you think you should be in charge or call the shots per se, but you thought your job would be more analytic than it is in reality. Personal example I used to be a clinical performance manager, I really enjoyed the data analysis and reporting to C-suite, but my husband needed to move countries and so I applied to Deloitte for what on the outside looked like a relevant consulting job and now I’m trapped in PMO delivery. I do nothing that Im interested in or desire a future in. The frameworks and methodologies are standard, so I’m just the totally replaceable consultant who updates PMO reports. In my honest opinion I’ve gone back to my current job’s description from the application and see how they exaggerated everything, saying candidates would be taking on “strategy” “operations improvement” “data analysis “ blah blah. Only one place did it mention programme management, and it wasn’t front and center.
On the outside consulting looks like team brainstorming sessions and cool analysis jobs. Don’t get me wrong, these do exist so if you want to stay in consulting you’ll have to go and find the role yourself, which can be difficult until you meet more people at your firm & learn your way around. I’d say leave if you feel in your gut it’s the right thing to do. Sometimes situations get better, but sometimes they don’t.

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That's great, it's easy to get lost on all those terms and lose sight of what the role is about. For a noob like me it's even easier. But we can't really avoid making mistakes altogether, we are bound to trip in several places. It just can't be helped.

Blunt, but what makes you qualified TO come up with those solutions yet? If you’re in a junior role, you may not have the experience yet.

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I only have experience at a smaller firm where we do it all and don’t really have the staffing to have separate teams to do this, so that may be something to look at. Someone at D would be better to say if there are any other teams that do that though.

Lets classify the work very broadly as Thinking and Doing. Doing does not involve any thinking. At Analyst and Consultant level, the work involves significantly more doing than thinking. It's only when you reach Manager that youd see 50% of both. And from there on its more thinking less doing. Only when you have done enough can you think clearly.

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I can see that. But even the kind of thinking is different for each line of work. In one they have to consider what's the best way to build up a project. In another they have to consider why did the project go wrong, how can it be fixed.

I didn't have a messed up view of the hierarchy, I really didn't understand what each place does in their work. I don't want to climb a mountain for years just to figured out I picked the wrong mountain years ago.

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You’re not going to be figuring things out in a silo anyway. You should try to understand what’s been decided and why.

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