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Chief
Or maybe they have no other option and are forced to do two jobs at once because child care is so insanely expensive. Maybe they are on a waiting list for a daycare. Maybe it’s summer and they can’t afford a sitter for every day of the week. It’s definitely not ideal but I think a lot of people who are trying to care for children and work remote are often doing it out of need and not because they want to.
$700/week is only ~$35k… that’s your problem
What’s your point? Unless you are trying to initiate a discussion of how working parents should and could be better supported, both by employers and the government, kindly move along. My kid is crying and I have a brief to write.
No kids, but I do chores, quick errands, make food, take naps, or dick around. And it’s still more productive than the office times. I solve problems all the time now by being able to let the brain stew on them while taking a break.
So I have no beef with how parents or anyone organize their day—assuming they still get the job done. My bosses do kids stuff all the time but are on earlier & later as a result.
Chief
Sounds like you have times you are focused on work and times you have breaks which is normal. People without childcare are never truly focused on work and distracted 100% of the time. It is also normal to have breaks from work to take kids to an activity or go watch a recital they’re in, but that’s not everyday.
Chief
work should not be a rigid 8 hrs a day
Imagine looking at this situation and thinking "Wow, it sure is a problem that parents are taking care of their kids"
Author - some people are smarter and more efficient than you. While you are working 100% of your full day, realize that some people can get that work done in half the time and spend the other hours caring for their kids and probably thinking of streamlining organization’s processes too. Some of us here are senior management at a top 5 investment bank. Obviously you think you are working hard, but are you working smart??
I don’t mind people who chose that lifestyle being accommodated, I just want to be compensated more for not having my attention divided and carrying the weight of the work.
What do you think it means? If you are talking about anecdotal experiences of parents habitually not meeting expectations and being team players, okay. Talk to someone at work about your team and you comp. That’s not a larger working parent issue that can be generalized to everyone. If a participant in the bowl you cite is doing this and meeting their work goals and childcare needs, god bless. I couldn’t routinely but who cares?!
But what are people supposed to do? We are WFH because it’s not safe to be in offices. It’s also not safe to have childcare in the home. Many people take the risk and have Nannie’s and babysitters but people cannot be forced to.
P1 when it’s not a pandemic those are the options. But it’s a pandemic.
D3 there are 35 Million people w long Covid. We don’t know how bad that’s going to get yet.
Pro
Only you think that and people with kids don’t care what you think.
I know childcare is expensive and we could afford 2 kids in daycare at a time so that is why they are 5 yrs apart. Only in summer did I have expense of summer camp /daycare for a few months. We lived within our means.
Isn’t life = half working and half taking care of children?!? Everyone raising families is juggling in some manner.
Just as they should not be punished for your decision. At the end of the day everyone's personal life is more important.
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I have been wfh for over 10 yrs.. my kids have always been in full-time daycare or day camps. NEVER in home if I am working. Work is work and needs full undivided attention. Children also need to have attention and opportunity for learning and fun.
Does this mean they deserve half the pay or more for being more efficient??!
Who does that? It would be super unproductive on both fronts. People I know still send their kids to daycare or have a nanny
I completely agree with you
This guy.....
Maybe people who don't wfh think you can get away with it. If you tried this you would fail at your job and also not be giving your kiddo enough attention. I work at a company that's 100% remote and myself and other colleagues either have a stay at home mom or send the kiddos to daycare.
I call them coworkers, not children.
Really sick of having to pick up the slack for coworkers that are parents. They leave early, have to wfh (which is a joke and they don’t get a thing done), and pass along sickness from their kids.
We have 1 parent in my time- who has had Covid 4 times, norovirus, and passed it to at to at least one team member (or the entire team with norovirus) every time.
People hate you parents- you’re a burden and out so much of an extra strain on the team in the name of your crotch goblin.