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I love my firm, but just got an offer to move firms for a bigger chunk of change and lower billable hours requirement. Logically, it makes sense to move, but I’m hesitant. Both firms seem great culture-wise. I am young and succeeding at my current firm. Any thoughts?

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I would say, for me, that it depends how: (1) how much more money it is, if you’re ok with what you’re making now, and future money-dependent plans; (2) basically same thing with billables and whether the the new firm requirement is indicative of how much people actually work. I’d like to point out, though, that I think “loving” a firm and “succeeding” at one as a young POC is pretty rare IME and I’d be hesitant to give that up. This new firm might seem great culture wise but you really don’t know!

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Leverage for higher salary at current firm? Billable requirement =\= average actual hours billed.

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You would be really surprised how effective this is. Use that leverage.

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I actually was in a very similar position right before CV happened. One thing I did was speak to a couple people who had worked at the offering firm and asked them why they left. Even though the offering firm boasted about their chill culture, it became apparent that wasn’t necessarily true. I then took the offer to my current employer and, even though they didn’t match it, they met me halfway, gave me a nice speech about how they valued me (this matters too!), and actually gave me a more diverse caseload, which was the other thing I wanted. So, I ended up staying. In retrospect, I wonder if I had taken that other job so close to CV, if they would have rescinded the offer after CV hit.

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I have never found following money alone to be a good decision. People have made good suggestions - especially about talking to people who have left - so you can learn more about the culture. I wondered why you were interviewing given how happy you are at your current firm. It is rare for a lawyer to be as happy as you sound with your firm.

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Make sure you are getting truthful and candid assessments. Also, I would investigate the following: 1) who is going to be my supervisor (one or many)?; 2) budget for professional development; 3) opportunities for growth; 4) will you get the opportunity to do what you like? Money would be my last consideration especially so early in your career. Good luck!

Depends in part in how long you’ve been at the current firm. If it’s at least 18 months that’s respectable for a move. Any less seems sketchy. Always consider how employment history looks on your resume. You want to convey stability, that you can remain at a firm long enough to be invested and succeed.

I would move, assuming that the new firm has the same values and structure for mentor ship and support that you’ve found to be successful at your current firm. Make sure to have thorough and candid conversation with associate of your vintage at the new firm.

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