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Just get the loan. It’s a house. Conventional financing. It’s a home you want to buy. Primary, sure. Whatever the bank wants to hear. Once you obtain the loan, it doesn’t matter. Rent it out. Do whatever you want.
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SE1 yes conventional loans are available for investment properties but rates are higher. In my experience banks don’t care as long as you pay. But you also have to be able to qualify for those loans without showing rental income.
An exciting prospect! From the lender perspective, it’s all about intent. If you’re intending to use the property for your family for at least 6 months of the year you can state occupancy as second home and still rent it out for the remainder of the year. Within recent years second home purchases no longer match the terms of primary homes, but the loan terms will still be more favorable than investment property numbers. And you are spot on for wanting to correctly identify: loan fraud is a Federal crime with penalty of 2-99 years! Buyers should never lie about occupancy.
Not low risk if you immediately turn it into a rental. Fannie/Freddie often will audit a file post-close. They check rental listings. They are looking for reasons not to buy the mortgage and will call the note. I would say about 20% of files are audited at some point.
Are you going to live in it or no
But what about if your rent it short-term on Airbnb and also use it personally?
I don’t know the technical/legal answer but I know I told my lender exactly that in Dec 2020 and I got a 2.375 rate so no way he counted it as investment.
Do you need loan money ?
Just know the lender will be asking about your intent to live there. If you work in LA and are buying a home in Nashville, they will need to see that your job will allow you to live in both. Saying you are planning to move to Nashville will require a paystub or offer letter to that city if you claim that will be your residence. Lending guidelines are tougher than they used to be regarding this.
Yes I do. I spent all my cash in home#1
Personal residence if you plan to move in. Investment if you’re planning to rent it out with no intention to move in. If you intentionally mislead the lender about intended use, that would be considered mortgage fraud.
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If you get the investment loan it’s 1% higher. If you do it as a primary loan and rent it out long term the bank can make you repay the loan. If you buy it as primary and Airbnb it, it’s pretty hard to say it’s not your primary because both can be true at the same time primary residence and short term rental.