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A long while ago I was told that the 'salary cap’ was $65k. I countered with $125k. We settled on $100k. Now, as someone who also hires people, if I find a stellar candidate I’ll go back to HR and finance and I’ll ask for more money for that position. Just as an FYI, if you do negotiate your $100k; don’t expect a raise for a couple of years as there may not be the money for it.
Absolutely. If you did your marker research and you know your worth is more than what thy offer you should. If they want you they will find the room in the budget. Otherwise it is probably a company that will underpay you constantly. If you really really want the job and they won’t budge try negotiate extra benefit (healthcare, gym, PTO...) and you can also agree on a target compensation to be activated in 6 months per a very specific set of goals that are dependent on your performance (and not how well the account is doing).
Guys! Got 10k and 1 xtra week of PTO more!!! Settled at $90k. Thanks for all your invaluable advice and encouragement 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 just wanted to close the loop and let y’all know ☺️
You should always negotiate the first offer, they expect you to and don't start with their cap, no matter what they say to the recruiter. Meanwhile, be somewhat realistic for your experience and geographical area. Of you're staying mid level copy, $100k is pretty high, $80k seems fair, but don't know details
Yeah they could change the printer paper they use and save $20k a year. If they want you, they will find the money. Do not settle.
Thanks all! 🙏 going to draft up my counter offer email tomorrow! You’ve given me the confidence to try 💪
Absolutely disregard that salary cap crap. It is always possible to get an exception made if you want the candidate enough. A $100k counter to an $80k offer is high but probably not enough to scare them off.
At least with network agencies my experience has been that salary is the only thing that’s negotiable (PTO, benefits, etc are usually not up for negotiation because HR has no control over them) so push hard.
While drafting your counter, be sure to demonstrate your value; I.e. “the responsibilities and requirements you’re asking for are more finessed and advanced than the current salary suggests...” Use your own counter offer to provide the recruiter/hiring manager the arguments of your case for a higher salary. When I negotiate contracts I don’t leave room for people to make arguments against me. Think of what a conversation MIGHT look like for them and write all of the counter points.
I got $10k over the cap because the company invested in me (cap set by client contract). Not enough to match what I wanted... but it showed they wanted me. So I took it. My advice is to negotiate other stuff... vacation days, CObRA coverage if you need it, leniency in expenses, newest tech, etc etc. hi
@SVP, Creative Director 1 great tips, thank you!
It’s a negotiation! If they flat-out turn it down or counter you can go back to see what’s left on the table. In addition to the ‘intangibles’ ask that you have a salary review at 6 months to see if there might be flexibility for an early raise and/or ask for a title increase . If anything, scoop up that title, work for 6-12 months and leverage it into a new position at another agency for more equitable pay.
Follow up question: do you wait until they’ve turned down your counter offer to suggest more non-salary benefits (like PTO) or do you put all your demands in the initial email? Feels like a lot of demands up front...