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If the recruiter is ghosting you, then it’s likely because the team lead wanted something else (or budget changes or 100’s of other reasons). I don’t think a recruiter would have you meet a team lead, but make their own decision to reject you without consulting the lead.
Or in summary...I see no benefit in going around the recruiter. Might tick them off, and the ghosting (while inhumane and cowardly) may be them hiding the fact that budget dried up, role went away (which has happened to me before.)
Yeah it sucks but this is starting to happen. Ghosting is such bad form, but it’s not an indication that the recruiter has gone rogue. The team probably just liked someone else better, even though they liked you. Recruiters don’t make hiring decisions. And while it may feel good in the moment to out this recruiter as a lame-assed ghoster, it won’t benefit you in any way. You’ll look petty to the team lead and you’ll make an enemy of the recruiter...
..and enemies are for LIFE.
Is it Mekanism? They’re serial ghosters.
Mekanism is rotten from the top down
Follow up, if you got no answer then move on. Recruiter isn't going to ghost you if you were the person the lead wanted.
Yeah, don't go around them.
Recruiters don’t have much power. Remember, that hiring manager is more or less like the recruiter’s boss.
All recruiters do is (ideally) filter out the bad candidates so that the client can get the best candidate without interviewing 1000 people.
They’re just match makers. They can bring two people together to meet but they can’t make you both fall in love with each other. That’s on you and the other party.
Plus if the recruiter brought you in, it’s in his or her best interest that you get hired. That’s how they get paid lol. So if you don’t get hired through them, they’re not happy either.
...follow up with recruiter and loop in the team lead that is making the hiring decision (my potential future boss)? We had great rapport in the interview process and I want to make sure my position is being heard past the recruiter
Recruiter is not gonna waste time on giving feedback unless s/he is really high on you and got positive feedback.
No one wants to be the bearer of bad news and no recruiter is going to give personalized feedback for interviews that didn’t go well. They’re not paid to be career coaches - they’re paid to find the best candidate.
And honestly even their feedback is not always valid. I once had an interview that lasted like 2 hours because I really hit it off with the person I’d be working with.
The recruiter was super enthusiastic and called me and said “WOW I heard he really liked you and the interview went well. Are you excited??”
I’m like “excited for what?...this is just an interview. It’s not like I got the offer.”
And lo and behold I met with the CEO and apparently something about me made him say no. He mentioned he liked to hire people from very different backgrounds and that wouldn’t have a chance of getting hired in other places. So I already had a feeling that ironically I was “too good” of a candidate having the traditional experience and not out there enough.
So I’ve learned to temper expectations and that recruiters don’t always know what they’re talking about. They’re just excited if they place a candidate and get paid.
Same thing just happened to me at Wunderman Thompson. 3 weeks and radio silence. Sometimes the interview process wasn’t as positive as you think.
I got ghosted by a recruiter back in *January* who just last week reached out. Apparently internal agency nonsense delayed the position for this long. Don’t go around them imho
I don’t use recruiters when I’m actively looking myself, but I do when I’m responding to an opportunity they bring to me
This reminds me of an interview I had a few months ago. I had great rapport with every one, I worked with a few people there prior who gave me glowing recommendations and I was overqualified for the job. I knew I had it in the bag. HR even called me to confirm my requested salary after, but after that I never heard back. I was perplexed as to how I didn’t get the job after a great interview and HR reaching out. Also one of the higher ups who I interviewed with told me “we will definitely be in touch.” so I knew I had aced the interview and had a high chance of getting the job.
Fast fwd a few months later, I was able to find a better job with better salary but I actually ran into the woman who interviewed me that would’ve been my boss if I got the job, and I found out she left the company as they lost a few clients and the business was changing (she went back to her old job which is in my same building). When I asked about my interview she told me that she really liked me but didn’t want to hire me because she knew I wouldn’t stay given the circumstances. She could’ve been lying to me to save face but she seemed genuine about it and I’m well aware of my skills and expertise and what I can bring to the table.
So taking this into account, the reasons for you being ghosted may be a blessing in disguise if you truly did as good as you felt you did. I also think about if I was offered the job and took it then I would’ve been making over $30k less than what I’m making now and probably doing just as much work. Case in point, if you’re a stellar performer and know your worth then you can probably find something just as good if not better.
Is it Leo Burnett? Had an awful experience with a recruiter ghosting me after a pleasant interview.
In the past, I have sometimes followed up directly with the hiring manager if it felt appropriate for the company and their process. Sometimes you can get a more direct answer on what is causing the delay or lack of response that way, but it doesn't always make sense and they won't always respond either. I wouldn't, however, follow up and cc HR like you're trying to call them out.
Don’t take it to heart if people ghost you. It could be for many reasons that are unrelated to your qualifications. Sadly at my agency, sometimes the opportunity just dries up (budgets, clients, internal politics). There should be a better process for managing communications with candidates, but such is the state of agencies these days.
^ This!
It's frustrating how utterly uninformed the general pop is about this job but highly confident in their opinion of how easy and a breeze it is with plenty of advice how to do it. This thread is surprisingly tempered and several people have pointed out some very real things thank you! The fight with hiring managers on not saying anything about next steps afterwards other than recruiting will follow up is never ending.
It's like going on a first date and one person saying let's do that again / I'll call you, then the other sits around waiting
As a Recruiting Mgr, If we want to continue the conversation then we will make an effort to get you to next rounds. I hate when hiring mgrs say to the candidate that “we will be in touch because we really want to bring you back” then as soon as the candidate leaves, we get an email saying negative things or they get feedback from someone that knows them and it’s negative. If it really went well, they will contact you to continue. If not, move on.