Ranking of job satisfaction by firm on the Big 4 Transparency newsletter - Any RSMers in here? Any reason why average job satisfaction would have come out at top if the heap?

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RSM might be 1 on here, but EY is the nicest

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Haha took me a minute

Interesting, was a partner at B4 and made the switch to RSM. In my experience I agree. Realistically, all the firms are great companies, although I know it's unpopular to say so.

However, even as a partner I felt more like a "cog" at B4; now I get to know my clients, their C level management and owners better. I like to help, and I feel like I can make a difference. I also like the lower ratio of partner to employee. Let's me have "real" relationships with my team and also improves my wlb. And I have always noticed that if the partner doesn't have good wlb, the staff definitely doesn't.

I think in the end, most of staff - managers here feel the same. But for people with different priorities, other firms may be a better fit.

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Baker tilly is the place to be. We’re #4 on the list but let me tell you, we should be #1. RSM? I could smack those guys with job satisfaction in my sleep EASY

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Nice try, Baker Tilly recruiter! Now, back to sending cold LinkedIn messages!

Agree with MA1 above. Left PwC for RSM. We still have billion-dollar funds that we audit so they’re still sizeable. We have a good number of million-dollar- audit-fee jobs in my office. After March, life is great.

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Probably comes down to working on large enough clients and getting paid well while not working big4 hours. That’s what ex big4 people at Moss Adams have said.

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It goes both ways. I think this past year there’s been more people going to big4 than the other way around.

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All these places are unsatisfactory.

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Ya, what they didn't tell you is the scale is out of 100.

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My buddy hated being at RSM. Now he hates being at Deloitte. Accounting lyfe lol.

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I’m hoping to switch to fp&a in tech in a couple years from valuation.

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EY. Nice 69

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Happy to make you giggle MD 🫡

Why are we so low in the rank

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EY employees are generally too dense to realize they’re being dumped on.

I mean, it’s generally not intelligent behavior to take one survey and treat it like it’s the biblical truth. High school level statistics would tell you that.

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I’m so

I had the best experience in RSM (out of regional firm and a Big4). RSM paid me more than Big4 when I started out and added another 10k for my MST. All the people were chilled and my team was great. I learned a lot from working on huge clients. Hours were still bad for being a high performer though.

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The big 4 are better at tracking metrics so they can squeeze every last drop out of you.

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This is so true. They keep on coming out with new matrices and everything means extra monitoring.

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If anyone interested in BDO, feel free to dm for referral. BDO definitely has very solid culture at most offices.

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As someone who is relatively new here, the culture at RSM is very unique. At first I thought it was the local office, but then I started working with people around the country and it was the same thing. Everyone is pretty positive, enthusiastic and most importantly embraces the non urgent culture. Things get done, but it's not necessary to send messages after 6pm or on the weekends.

I just attended a conference with 1,500 other RSM people and yeah, it's real. They fiercely defend the culture and do as much as they can to make sure it stays this way.

It doesn't mean the firm doesn't have issues, growing pains, technology challenges etc...it does. But having worked at a B4 for almost a quarter century, the difference is like fresh air so these rankings don't surprise me.

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I worked there a few years ago. This was definitely not what the culture was like when I worked there.

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I did a year at RSM. May have been the office I was in, but I hated it.

I think it probably depends on the office too.

Oh 100%, this is averages for all over the US

Rsm gave everyone a bonus or Xmas gift if they rated themselves high

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