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Chief
What’s sad is the toxic way so many Americans have been trained to think about our social safety net.
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I mean, your original point had nothing to do with forced labor for convicted criminals. You stated the existence of slavery creates a situation where the social safety net is purposefully underfunded. This implies widespread existence of slavery for non-incarcerated individuals, whether you intended that or not.
Chief
1) Your friend may make 80% of what you make but it’s only for 8 months. So they aren’t going to be making as much as you think
2) Your friend has lost all the benefits you have and non-employer health insurance is expensive
3) Your employment history is unaffected so your future earning potential is better than your friends
4) Having this extra unemployment benefit will stimulate the economy faster because people will not default on rent, continue discretionary spending etc
So all in all, this benefits you too. Lastly, don’t refer to this person as your friend because they are definitely not if you can complain about something like this when it comes to them. Friends wish each other well
It’s frustrating people out of work aren’t suffering enough?
It’s not sad at all. You have a job, they don’t. Wake up, grow up, rethink your privilege and find gratitude in what you have.
I have never disagreed more with any post on this app, and that’s quite an achievement
Chief
OP, don't listen to all the haters. I'm with you on this one.
Oh yes. I read a post that i imagine could only be written by a spoiled brat that probably never in their life has faced hardships, complain that their roommate, who just lost their job in the middle of what has the potential to be the worst recession in the history of the US, is going to make 80% their salary until August. Until f&@ing August. The check is not forever and roommate still needs to find a job during a pandemic and the current job market. I guess he prefers to have their roommate literally struggle financially. Shows a lot about his character and the kind of person he/she is.
So yeah, i read the post!
Pro
You better check yourself OP
I really hope this is just a spontaneous feeling you quickly got over.
Getting by, or just getting 80% of your no longer assured salary for a short amount of time feels better than the gratitude of remaining intact in the midst of a global crisis, where there are people who don’t have enough to put food on the table for their children, whose entire livelihoods and dreams were washed away in the blink of an eye, and whose lives have been permanently affected.
Keep your eyes on the big picture. If you didn’t enjoy your job enough before this hit, maybe this is a reminder to ride it out then find something you actually enjoy and look forward to doing beyond a paycheck. In the meantime, be grateful you’re privileged enough to even think this way, because the world needs a little more empathy, not ignorance.
All the posts I’ve seen like this forget to account that what he’s getting is gross and what you’re comparing it against is probably take home (or at least conveniently forgetting to consider benefits like leave/sick leave/benefits).
Although, unemployed folks get “leave” benefits too 😉
This makes me furious. Would you like to trade spots with him?
So many things wrong with this. Unemployment insurance is there for ... unemployment. And it hardly covers jobs making above minimum wage until now with the added stimulus where it covers a little bit more.
No. My point is unemployment checks are paid out to unemployed because they paid into it. They are due it. And nobody is advocating for people to lose their jobs directly, it’s just a side effect of closures.
We literally need to flatten the curve. We need to pay people to STAY HOME and DO NOT LOOK for a new job. This is the central approach every Western Democracy has done but through various methods. That’s why benefits are so high. So people don’t look for work.
Is it has good as Europe?!? nah, but it will have to do for now.
Ac3 - calling people out for following a trend doesn’t make you cooler
The elitist and unsympathetic attitude of OP is exactly why those who are economically marginalized are being drawn to radical left wing and right wing ideology. We are in the middle of a catastrophe on the scale of a world war and all some people can think about is a dick measuring contest with their unemployed friend. Be happy you have a job because if this goes on a lot longer you might have to rely on those same jobless benefits you are deriding.
Actually it is a wonderful thing that finally people can sustain a decent lifestyle while searching for a job.
Chief
How long does the extra 600 per week go on for? I know during the last recession Obama and Congress extended basic unemployment for 99 weeks
Without having to do anything for 6 months
Wasn’t the max time changed to 39 weeks?
If it’s any solace, at least you get a direct line of sight on where your tax dollars are going, rather than them just vanishing into a bureaucratic abyss.
This is why flatten the curve in this country doesn’t work. Everyone only cares about themselves and at the individual level you actually want the highest spiked curve possible so you can hide at home for 14 days and not be infected
You get paid if you are affected by corona virus . What’s that policy ?
Pro
I think OP was referring to the extra 600$ from the federal government in addition to what the state normally gives. Although that has not started being distributed yet.
OP you’re probably not that well paid if he’s getting 80% of what you’re making gross. Alternatively, that’s fine since entry level salaries represent that minimum that college educated professionals should earn.
Rising Star
Entry level salaries are vastly different in different professions, PwC2. A college-educated person going into advertising or retail banking wouldn’t make anywhere close to what a first-year consultant makes, even if he/she went to a better school and got better grades.
Petty, small, self-centered POV. Grow up, OP.
I get you. I'm grateful for my job and would do anything to keep it but it would feel weird to live with someone earning similar without working
Be happy that your roommate is not starving, not the other way around
The only time you should look in your neighbor's bowl is to make sure they have enough. You don't look in your neighbor's bowl to see if you have as much as them.
I’m sure he’d willingly change places with you, if you’re unhappy