There are these two creepy, single, young men in my office who are constantly talking about who they think is hot or not. I'm a man myself, so I get that good-looking women are an exciting topic to talk about, but it's really weird and inappropriate considering we're in a workplace. I know they know that I can hear them, because they're not even trying to pipe down. Would you tell them they need to stop or talk to HR about this?

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Honestly, I’d go straight to your superior so they can handle it. That’s what they are there for. Don’t over share, just a quick “Hey, a few staff are speaking inappropriately about a few woman in the office” No need to burn bridges, could screw you in the end if you approached them directly, also depends on the relationship you have. It’s above your pay grade to be mixed up in a potential issue. Always protect yourself, especially if you don’t know how everyone is connected.

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Woman here and I will tell you the same thing, regardless of who is doing this: I would give friendly advice and just tell them that they need to be careful talking about things like that in the office where people can hear them as some people might take offense and take it to HR.

I personally would not report it to HR, let them have the opportunity to get smarter about how they behave in the office.

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Going against the grain here. I've been around women in the office all my life, and they do this too. All the time. There was this group of women at my previous job that would sit at lunch and all they talked about was which bosses/colleagues were hot vs which were not. Did/do I think this is something to report these women to HR about? No. Most men wouldn't bat an eye.

Now, if these guys are talking about *doing* something inappropriate to anyone, by all means, you should report. But if they're not, talking about how someone is hot isn't a national security threat. Everyone, man or woman, does it. Perhaps not out loud, but everyone does. To that point, another thing you could do is tell them to pipe it down or keep it to themselves.

But other than that, office gossip that doesn't hurt anyone is just that, office gossip.

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How do you know it doesn't hurt someone? It could be very offensive to have to listen to that given a person's personal background, and has no bearing on work. Not acceptable. Have you not had a single sexual harassment course?

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Tell them to stop first but if they don't, go to HR.

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Do it discretely and in a friendly manner as in watching out for their best interest.

what a white knight post lol

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Its sad lol

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I used to work with a couple of girls who each had a large number 10 written onto an A4 piece of card.
Every time a certain man would walk past, they’d lift the 10 scorecards.

I found it embarrassing at first but I soon got used to it and welcomed the flattery.

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I have just imagined the scene you have described....very funny 🤣

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Tell them to stop first. Go to HR if it continues. They need to grow up.

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I'd let it go tbh. Don't we all talk about good-looking people behind their backs? It's only human to find it fascinating. However, if they're always at it, you should tell them you can hear their gossip, and maybe they'll keep it on the down low.

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Wow. Massive overreaction alert

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Here’s what I will tell you I’m a female. The problem in society is that men aren’t calling out other men. Now in order to do this, this should not be done with both of them at the same time but one very closely following the other. In private. If they are young and they are starting their career, that’s the tack that you take and you say what you two are doing is inappropriate, insubordinate, and creates a hostile work environment and if you don’t knock it off ASAP, it will go higher to HR. That is all that needs to be said.
If nothing gets done really quickly as far as their actions, you go to HR. And document the date and time that you talk to each of them and what was said at a high level, but remember you’re talking about behavior not personalities.

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As a man you should be telling these men to stop! If you don’t, you’re just as bad as them, don’t be a bystander! Men tend to listen to other men!

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You sound like a femboy

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I feel like work would be a lot less stressful without whiny chuds like the poster. Maybe understand that you’re included as a sign of trust. If you don’t want to including in that conversation then tell them so they can be mindful of that but even thinking about escalating over dude talk is a loser move

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This

You fools still think going to HR with a complaint is a good ideal.....

More often than not - YOU will be made the problem!

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Criticise to people's face but have their backs. Tell them and if not, report. Refreshing attitude though, thanks

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Do both. Stand up for the dignity of women in your workplace

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Honestly, unless the associates are being loud enough to disturb others or directly making someone uncomfortable, this feels like something that’s not really the OP’s business. People talk casually at work all the time, and having a private conversation about who they find attractive (while maybe immature) isn’t inherently a workplace violation.

If no one’s being harassed, singled out, or made to feel uncomfortable, then eavesdropping and running to HR over a private conversation would be an overreach. Not everything needs to be policed.

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It can be a tough situation but I’d tell them first, if you’re comfortable. If not talk with their leadership and voice your concerns. If it continues report it to HR.

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Women do this all the time. ALL THE TIME. This is part of some weird double standard where behavior is only “toxic” if it’s being done by men.

It can go too far, sure. If it’s nothing more than “x is hot”, then maybe save your “ally-ship” for something important.

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Maybe best to ignore it. I have seen this type of behavior everywhere. It's a snapshot of the overall company culture which is difficult to change

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No he shouldn’t. He can ignore it and mind his own business

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Tell them to stop

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You can politely let them know it’s uncomfortable and to exclude you, no need to get wrapped up in any of that. Going to HR is a big decision, so chat like that can be harmless or can be disrespectful, just need to gauge for yourself.

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