What is big law (that pays market) really like for an associate? Are you billing 2700 hours per year drafting full motions and going to trials? Or are you just responding to discovery, drafting sections of a motion, and researching? Trying to gauge quality of life between a big law firm that pays $300k + 80k bonus and billing 2700 hours vs a law firm that pays $220k + 15k bonus and billing 1900 hours. Thanks!

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I would say 1-5% of big law attorneys have 2700+ hour years. Definitely less than 10-15%. In all honesty at most firms, there's more people trying to make hours than there are billing 2500+ plus years. I would say most "productive" big law attorneys bill in the neighborhood of 1875-2300 hours.

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My big law firm has a 1900 requirement for bonus. Billing 2700 is a very very atypical year

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Why don’t you just bill 1900 at the market firm? It’s sort of up to you how much you bill. You just have to be willing to push back.

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I was at 2300 as a first year maybe before I knew how to set boundaries. From third year and on it’s been 2000 to be bonus eligible and never more than that.

Money doesn’t make a massive different to quality of life.

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800 more hours a year is equal to 5 extra months of work and I bet those hours are just as stressful, if not more, so you'll be chopping years off your life essentially

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If that's worth $90k more after taxes then okay

I think that hours vary a lot by firm. My billable hours (with several hundred non billable not included) over the past 7 years have ranged from 2150 to 2570 (typically on the lower end of this range and 2570 was in 2020).

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hours aside, the type of work depends on the group (the type and quantity of business partners being in) and whether they trust you. If the partners bring in mostly investigations, for instance, then yeah you’re not writing motions a lot. On top of that, I know plenty of mid levels who coasted and never ingratiated themselves with partners who only ever did doc review and glorified busy work, whereas others their year do draft motions, etc

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Doing both categories of work you describe but certainly not billing anywhere near 2700 a year and don’t know anyone who has. I have yet to bill over 2000, though I anticipate I will next fiscal year when I go to trial.

Varies but a bit of everything. I've been on fire the last few years (3000ish) thanks to 1-2 trials a year, and tons of fast-paced discovery disputes. 1900 > 2700 at those amounts. It's say anything north of like 2200 or 2300 starts to really compromise your ability to maintain a healthy life outside work.

good god, I'm not even sure how I feel about a firm letting someone keep this much on their plate for years

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Well, after a certain point, and depending on your life I guess

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