What’s your personal policy regarding working on vacation? If you’re cc’d on everything and it seems like things are getting pretty busy for your teams, do you offer to pitch in or just ignore the back and forth on your deals and enjoy your vacation and reintegrate when you’re back? Going through this dilemma now and feeling some guilt about the work my teams are doing.

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Just cover for your team when they go on vacation and the guilt goes away. And just check emails 1-2 times a day to confirm something wasn’t emailed directly to you with no one else copied.

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This is the correct answer. Go the extra mile to protect the vacation of others and all but the worst jerks will do the same for you (but even then, you can enjoy your time off guilt-free because you did right by others when it was their time off).

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A Partner emailed me on the side saying its not a good look to be just watching the emails go by. Please contribute

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LOL this is absurd.

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Please get a job where you can take a vacation without getting shamed.

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Unless something is directed at me, I’m not jumping into the fray.

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And I say this as someone that checks my phone when I’m OOO like 6-8 times a day. I just like to folder or ignore as I go rather than triage all at once. But unless someone directly emails only me, or specifically names me to do something, I don’t respond. And sometimes even then, depending on who it is, I’ll wait to respond.

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I set expectations up front. If I’m not working, I tell my team that and I don’t take my computer with me. If I plan to work some of the time, I let them know that too. But my team is good about covering each other when we’re on vacation, sick, or on parental leave.

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I take my laptop in case there's an emergency only I can handle and if my flight gets cancelled and I have to come back a day or two later than planned, which has happened. I have a surface pro I take when I travel since it's thinner and smaller than my daily laptop.

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Personally I prefer to go through my emails once a day to clear out things I’m only copied on for visibility. I’d rather whittle down my inbox than feel overwhelmed. Whether I weigh in on other things really depends on what it is. I’m not going to weigh in just for the sake of it if I’m on vacation but I’m also not going to leave people hanging if it would only take me a few minutes to respond.

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What. If you're on vacation, gave advance notice and have an OOO up, you don't reply unless you're directly asked to.

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Go on vacation and get coverage. We need to stop normalizing working all the time, esp if people have been given notice about your plans.

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Respond if only I can answer and check emails once or twice a day but that's it

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Do check emails (1-2 times a day is fine) to forward stuff and answer the occasional internal question from your coverage folks that need your institutional knowledge but if you set expectations for your vacation for your team, then enjoy your vacation. 90% of the battle here is letting folks know, finding coverage from your seniors/partners who request you find coverage and doing as much as you can to equip your team/coverage with what’s still on your plate before you go.

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