Anyone else in US envy the Indian tech industry? It's crazy how much opportunity for growth there is over there. Its like the mid 90s in the US. Then the high salaries and benefits are just insane. My Indian colleagues got 10% raise while we in the US got 2%.

likefunny
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at
Highlighted IconHIGHLIGHTED

I’m not sure who told you we get high salaries, but that’s definitely not true across the board. Our wages are actually quite unlivable. The reason we get 10% raises is because it’s a high inflation country.

We work ridiculous hours to serve our American overlords (which makes RTO policies so unreasonable). And if you choose to work for an Indian company instead, they’ll make you work every Saturday.

There’s a reason why everyone here wants to move to the US. That said, India is one of the few countries with a positive growth story so I’m cautiously optimistic. Lots of companies outsourcing jobs to here.

likehelpful

I'm by no means an expert on India and its employment picture. But just common sense and general awareness tells us that appraisal can't be true. There are many Indians who come to the US to work in the tech industry, but I don't know that I've heard of any Americans wanting to relocate to India. That seems to tell a story.

like

It's down to salary and benefits. Both are much higher in the West than in India. After a few years, Indian engineers go back to their own country with everything they have learned which is a brain drain for US and EU.

like
Recent IconRecent

I'll say that I do not envy the devs I support that work in India. They are over worked, under paid, have 1000 other people waiting to take their job the instant they fuck up and get let go, and don't even get me started on that 10% raise and that would be about a .10% raise in USD. Unless you are a Senior Software Engineer, a dev is making at most about $60K/yr and most are making about half (if that much) where I working in end user support make about $50k/yr.

Please educate yourself on cost of living, pay rates, exchange rates, and cost of education on other countries before posting nonsense.

like

I think you are smoking crack. US Tech Salaries are declining, and LATAM Nearshoring is in high demand. Stop post-click baiting and focus on the facts. The argument is the significant and pivotal shift that is currently happening across the globe.

Now do cost of living, quality of life and actual numbers not percentages.

From my experience, they aren't that good most of them and according to that their salary isn't that high. (Speaking from the European union)

I believe you don’t know what salaries are outside of the US. As most folks have already told you here, Indians would’ve been leaving their own country in packs if their salaries were livable there

IDK. It is interesting being the token "white, american" guy in an industry dominated by Indians

I came here to say what it appears that everyone else is saying. No, I do not envy the Indian tech industry because I do not envy their salaries. They get big raises because companies want them to stay, but a 10% raise to someone making maybe 20% of your salary is not much money.

I have to disagree....pay to outsourced countries is quite low - but there are exceptions of course, I worked for a large company that started hiring in India and Phillipines where I worked alongside them and they were paid low. cheap labor for american company.

It depends what the "tech" is. In aerospace? Sure, they have a very lively sector. In medicine? Yeah, the schools and advanced research facilities are awesome. Materials and manufacturing? This is a mixed bag. There is advanced science being done in materials and chemical engineering, and that's been very promising to watch unfold, but I don't have a window into where the funding is strongest - there are a lot of foreign companies with great labs and exceedingly talented and creative people. I don't have a clear window into the native research centers and businesses. IT? Not so much - it's very competitive and pay is low. Software development in general is a mixed bag - the smart global players will have an office there (M$oft, Oracle, SAP, etc) but there's a huge segment of global businesses that rely on Indian contract developers for low-cost maintenance work but withhold the creative and research work. You'll have to do a lot of footwork to break into the exciting stuff.

As someone who moved to the U.S. after working in India for a year, I find that getting a job in America is harder. I think securing an entry-level role is much easier in India compared to the U.S. That said, America is still America—if you succeed, you succeed big.

"Opportunity for growth" means "no growth." Ask yourself what "10% raise" really translates to.

10% raise on what salary? The average salary for a software engineer in say, Bangalore, is ₹1.2M. Sounds like a lot on paper but is the equivalent to about $14k.

Hi. I’m Hashim, and I been looking for Google cloud position for the longest time, it’s just so draining that I been applying and getting rejected. I took a class awhile ago and nailed the google cloud platform exam, and now I’m doing internship so I can advance my skills in the field. I just felt like commenting on here and look for any source of help. Please if you can or anyone reading this can help please do or share your thoughts!!!

Related Posts

We had evaluations and normally we have annual raises. I think my salary is under market value at $68k (plus OT) in Los Angeles (5 years of experience). I was told I am one of the top employees in the firm. When I asked about a raise, I was told “when you think about it at your level 5k to 10k doesn’t really matter it’s the long term goal that matters”. What would be your response to that, to a partner who is making 500-600k a year?

like

Dear Sharks,

What will be In hand salary per month ?

LTA, Food coupon, upskill allowance , Tele bill-- all these includes In take home salary ?

My CCTC is 7.5 as Fixed, take home monthly 56k. Is this a good deal ?

Please Help

Post Photo
like

I got good internal hike last year like 30% but it's not upto market standard, can I ask for hike again this year amidst this recession times? I know they are recruiting new ppl with much more salary than me. Any suggestions hiw do i start the conversation

like

What should be the industry standard salary for sde from tier 1 college , and 3.5 yrs of experience in backend in any startup ?

What’s an average S2 salary in FDD for high COL’s like NYC, SF, LAX and Chicago?

I’m a defense attorney looking to make the switch to the plaintiff side. I’m in Los Angeles and I’m wondering what a reasonable compensation package would be. What percentage should I be making off of the cases?

like

Hi Sharks, HCl 26 lpa 24 fixed Capgemini 24 lpa fixed 3 lpa joining bonus Need to join next week, please suggest need wlb and job security . Capgemini HCL Technologies

Yoe 4 stack node developer

like

I got Canada PR recently. I am in process of getting an offer from Deloitte Canada for Senior Risk Specialist in Enabling Areas. How much should I ask for as a Salary if the position is full time and how much should i ask for if the poaition is a contract?

like

Senior engineer making 135k and I was offered a promotion to engineering manager after completing a development plan. Near the end of the plan and I expect compensation talks to start soon. Based on some research around Boston and my role in the company, I feel 165k plus 10-15% bonus is fair. Nonetheless, first time going through something like this and asking for thoughts and comments. Thanks!

like

I feel like my boss is sexist and unfair. I've worked here for three years and he's never once given me a raise. He told me once that women aren't good at sales. What do I do?

like

Hi
I am a senior graphic designer
Work experience - 8years
How much salary should I be getting?

like

Any info on when the discussions for mid-year promotion are happening? I understand that ppl will get to know between November 11-15.

For all you in IT audit what has your salary progression been YOY?

like

What do you think is an appropriate base salary for someone with 12 years various marketing and IR experience across the alternatives industry and 2 years PE/VC fundraising experience? Looking in the broader NYC metro area.

My spouse got an opportunity for a consultant position in UK . Can someone advise on the average salary for a consultant there ? He has an experience of 12 years.

like

Does anyone know the salary for Managing Consultant at Capgemini? The consulting practice not Tech

like

Hi fishes,

I joined on 28th November and was told that the payroll team will contact me before 15th for payroll setup.

I have opened a new salary account with icici for gds but still have not been contacted by payroll team.

Will I get salary this month or will it be carried over to next month as my payroll is not setup and in orientation it was told that the cutoff date is 15th of every month.

like

I'm not in sales per se but I manage my company's largest wholesale account ($150 million per/yr account). It's a great company, awesome culture, good benefits, flexibility, but the pay is not great ($60K/yr). All the pros outweighed the mediocre pay, but now with inflation rising, my paycheck isn't going as far and I'm having a really hard time trying to figure out if I should start looking elsewhere or if I should ask my boss for a raise.

likehelpful

Hi All, what is a good salary hike % while moving from one Big 4 company to another in Technology Consulting, 7 years IT experience for a Manager role?
Where can I find average salaries for a role in a particular company?

like

Sinple advise those who are waiting for SA promotion... whatever package u r getting as A you will get only 15% hike for promotion to SA...so it's nt at well worth, Better switch.

like

More Posts

What vendor do you use for cold direct mail lists?

like

Hi fishes ,

Off topic post .

I am in need of a ergonomic chair as my neck and back is paining a lot , currently I use plastic chair 😅😅.

Can anyone recommend best ergonomic chair which you are using under 20k with good neck and back support ?

like

Any thought on tax resolution or going to work for a tax resolution firm?

Hi Fishes, I have joined Zoom as a Software Engineer for India team.

like

“The copy needs more modern slang young millennials can relate to. It isn’t jiggy enough right now."

likefunnyuplifting

Does anyone know any artist in the NY, NJ area.

I'm doing a private wine tasting and art expo, but one artist can't participate anymore.

like

Hey fishes, curious which San Diego companies you think give the best work-life balance. Can be public, private, start-up, etc. BONUS: If you work for one, do you like it there?

My friend bought a nice condominium and his agent assured him that it had a garage. AFTER he signed the papers and moved in, the neighbors told him that the unit does not come with a garage. Can he sue the agent? He feels ripped off.

like

Any recommendations for best balance transfer card? Like zero APR for 15-18 months and no fee? Also nice to have points or cash bonus

like

Does salary negotiation happens during internal transfer? If someone has experienced it can you tell a little about it. What is the hike that can be expected?

like

Hi Fishes,

What is Difference between SAP Labs and SAP India Pvt Ltd.

For SAP Consultant which will be best suited organization?

Thanks in Advance

like

What are good options for flat 1bhk , ok for sharing (male ) budget 10 - 15 k , depending upon distance upto 3 km

Office location - sap labs epip Whitefield

Looking for proper facilities like water etc, luxury not required but no problem if found with good price. SAP

like

Hi Fishes, Got a call from SAP for functional role .I have 10 yrs exp in SAP functional skill , how much can I ask for compensation. Since when I asked 50% hike recruiter behaved abnormally and denied it.
What's job level and avg compensation for 10 yrs exp resource in sap labs.

like

39M in West LA, looking to meet someone for drinks and see where things go! (Never married, no kids)

like

Exempt Salaried employees, do you get paid overtime? How many hours do you typically work?

like

I'm holding an offer from MakeMyTrip and another offer from OlaElectric. Ninjacart is willing to make me an offer. But they're saying that they'd discuss the offer only after the other company that I'm interviewing with has come up with an offer first. There's been a delay from HRs of the companies in a similar way. How do I urge them to send me the offer letter without sounding pushy? I had reached out to some of the HRs myself. Would that be too awkward if I accept & back out their offer?

like

Hello Folks,
Can someone please let me know , what will be the basic package for Account specialist / account manager in Advertising ?

like

Would Middle East offices still hire many people this year or sort of at a hiring freeze? (Think post-mba level)

like

Hello fellow fishes,
I'm 5 YOE in analytics, mainly CPG/Retail business understanding and solutioning with a touch of python.

I'm planning to enter in freelancing. What could be a potential stream and how to break through into that first project.

Additional Posts in Tech

I was contacted by a recruiter with a job in the EV market, which is something I've been wanting for a while. Im at a comfortable point in my current position where I can do my job very easily, change would mean starting from zero again. What should I do? Any advise?

like

I've been working for Disney from a third-party company for 8 years. It is possible to keep that seniority if I move to an FTE position at Disney?

like

Just out of curiosity, have you ever started a new job and thought what the hell am I getting myself into?!?
If it was the wrong fit how long did you grin and bear it? 6 months / 1 year / longer?
Did it get better with time or worse? (For instance just a case of lack of know-how)
If you left did you find securing a new job difficult due to only being there for so little time?

likefunny

What are some things you guys wish you knew before you started your NetSuite implementation?

I’m at a small company that’s sort of becoming medium sized, and a new exec pushing to quickly implement NetSuite and I just want to make sure we’re not getting in over our heads, he’s trying to get this done within two months

We currently use Salesforce, quick books, and excel, we’ll be consolidating a lot of accounting and finance stuff into netsuite and integrating it with Salesforce

like

Hi fishes, can you help me decide? I'm L63 at Microsoft with TC of $220k and I've got an offer from AWS for an L5 role at $300k TC. I love Microsoft and can see myself growing a lot here. I was approached by a recruiter for the Amazon role.

like

Hi everyone! I am working with my HR to improve our maternity/paternity leave policy. Currently I only get 2 weeks fully paid and then an additional 8-12 weeks at 60% pay (short term disability). I need some examples of companies with less than 100 employees and what your maternity/paternity policy is. Please include company name! Thanks!!!

like

Looking for twitter referral. Anyone can help?

Thanks

like

Anyone with experience working at Endpoint Closing? Wondering what the culture is like

like

Resigned from my job for blatant racism last week. Been a contingent worker for 6 months. The manager that recruited me unfortunately left after a couple weeks and went to another company. She however recommended me for the permanent opportunity to higher management. The acting manager came in, permanent role was posted, I applied, interviewed……manager told me they chose someone else external for the role. I could sense the manager had no intentions to hire me permanently

like

Account management role at Google or product management role at Facebook? (Entry level)

like

Microsoft, Salesforce, Amazon? Same TC.

like

Have you ever taken a job you know you will hate because you needed the money right away? I have a family to take care of. I don't want to be plowing through our savings for selfish reasons like my mindframe at work, but I don't want to make our lives worse by being miserable. It's a matter of really ruining some of our financial future if we don't get money soon.

like

I'm currently interviewing for a hardware internship (at a startup). I've had a phone interview, a 30 minute technical interview and now I have a 2-3 hour interview. Is it just me or does this seem a little excessive for an internship?

like
like

Which companies have best WLB, least stressed DS/DA roles? I’ve been suffering from some immunology issues and stress from work would worsen it, therefore I want to move to a company/role with good benefit (esp. healthcare) and great WLB (little chance of PIP, etc). Doesn’t have to be high-paying, as long as it can support my life (single) and long-term medical cost. Thanks in advance.

like

For remote folks: am I more likely to find a remote role that allows me to move around multiple times during my tenure at a big FAANG-like company, or a startup? what are things I should look out for in my search?

like

Hey, would you guys recommend working as an operations analyst at Brex, SDA at Affirm or Business Analyst at capital one. Recent grad here that got the offers but is having some issues deciding

like

If you were an Uber employee that got laid off, how have you been faring?

like

I have a coworker who keeps spouting comparative odds and situations in regards to the safety of the vaccine. Such as: you're twice as likely to get hit by lightening than have blod clots from JJ. It's very annoying and I find it to be really inapprorpriate, maybe because it's pushy or just I find these comparative things to be a bit irrelevant. How does one handle something like that? Can you shut the person down without starting a spat?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal