Anyone think the long hours in advertising are a turn off? Still young enough to leave the industry and make a change. Anyone see anyone do that before because of balance?

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I find it interesting how focused 72 is on improving many of the other faults of the industry (diversity, maternal/paternal leave, etc) but how indifferent leadership is to overwork.

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In my early 30s and over it. Left adv last week. Fingers crossed it gets better.

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I'm 40, my last day is in less than 2 weeks. Leaving advertising and (fingers crossed) never looking back. Don't know what I'm doing next for work but I do know that advertising and all these agencies are not worth what we all put into them.

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It's everywhere! Same boat tho. I'm tired of working every weekend and 70+ hours a week. I'm tired of missing dinner with my friends and family. Im tired of having to cancel vacations so I can put in another 20 hours of work. Etc etc etc. and the more I read on here the more I realize that it's not just the agency I'm at but the entire industry. If you can get out to something that can deliver a great work life balance and great salary then do it.

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Client side. I want a 9-5/10-6 sort of schedule. And no weekends.

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So close to leaving. Totally over it.

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Me too ^ it's never brought up....

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What else would you do? Feeling the same way but also feeling trapped in this industry.

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7+ but I don't think it matters. Just go for it if you want a change. Try it out.

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72 is famously rough in this sense (hence most of their creative teams being hella young). Don't worry OP, you have options my friend, without even leaving NY

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Get on the right account. Pharma accounts work great hours

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Yuuuup. Job hunting right now with the goal of going client side (at least until I figure out what I'd rather be doing outside of advertising altogether). Mainly trying to leave agency side due to the hours.

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I'm out in 5 weeks. Becoming a web developer. By forever ad life 👋👋

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Some teams are there 80 hours a week. Some 50. Depends entirely on role and account. But no one is there for 40.

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Great question.
Long hours are not a turn off if you're having fun. If you're wondering, it probably means you're not finding purpose in the work. Two ways: 1. stay in advertising to build grit, crazy work ethic, make connections that will serve you later. 2. Leave to find a job you love so much that you don't mind putting the hours, or a job that gives you balance. Advertising is unforgiving with those who don't put in the hours. People end up being frustrated for being perceived as B Players when they don't want to sacrifice their lives for advertising. You need to be ok with that. Or leave. Or put in the hours. There's a reason advertisers earn so much: it's a draining job.

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How many hours would you like to work each week?

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Is 72 work/life balance worse than other shops you've been at? How many hours we talking.

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That's gross and pointless. What a waste of life.

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ask anyone who's ever freelanced at 72 what they think. Let's just say there's a reason they never do hourly. The place would tip over in a month haha

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I freelanced at 72's LA office and was doing 12-15 hour days pretty much every day. Not to mention weekly travel to the clients once a week. The people are really awesome there though. Got my hands on some fun work they were doing. And got to experience 72 Day- which is hands down the best agency party/event I've ever been to. 👍🏻

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