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Maybe it’s just been too long since my first job but $43k sounds amazing
That's the standard for agency
I can't speak for your role, but for an entry level position you can always try and negotiate for things outside of salary. Push for more vacation days or a six-month review. Might not work out, but extra little perks can add up.
Do you have another offer? Is money the only issue here? What is your ideal number?
It's going to be hard to negotiate in this environment unless you have multiple offers and this shop is the shop you really want.
For entry level, especially, they will have 1st and 2nd choices... if you don't take it they will call the other person and see if they will take it. If this is a large holding company with a centralized recruiting team, chances are high they will have more than 2 options. Entry level positions are always up and applicants are almost always accepted.
Agree that’s better than on the buying side were entry level is 35k and you can’t negotiate. Do the work and you get promoted in a year. Congrats on job offer, wish I got in on the account side.
$43 isn't too bad for straight outta school. If you hop every 18-36 months that'll increase by $15ish each time for the next two or so, and after that it'll be less frequent but bigger numbers.
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42k in NYC seems so low! I made 65 as a jr. and asked for 60.
It sure doesn’t go far, but that’s the wage structure for Account people.
OP, you can reasonably ask for $50k and they may just meet you in the middle ($46k). That’s around what I made starting off. Good luck!
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That’s about right and normal $ for entry level AAE in nyc.
You could just ask if they could do a bit better - ask for 49k. Maybe they’ll bump up a couple k’s.
I agree that’s almost impossible to live on in nyc.
I was an AAE at Havas in NYC a little while ago and I believe they initially offered me $42k but I asked for $45k. That’s the standard for AAEs at NY agencies. Honestly, if it’s over $50k for an AAE position, I consider that lucky. But don’t forget about OT! OT adds up a lot
I asked for 40k for an AAE role in Seattle (fresh out of college, had never had an internship). There was no back and forth and HR seemed quite pleased, which makes me think I could have gotten a bit more. Maybe counter with 45 or 46k? If I could redo it, I would have asked for 45 and Seattle is a bit cheaper than NYC. I got trapped at 40 because of the COVID-19 raise freeze, even though I've been an AE for 4 months now. Like others have mentioned, it's always a battle to claim OT (even though it is federally mandated). But this is just how it is in the beginning...
As an AAE at Havas, I made $38K (like 7 years ago.) I would say $43K sounds good. Don’t forget you will also get overtime.
I think as long as you make under 58,500 in NYC you get overtime.
Agreeing with others that outside of potentially a creative roll this is a decent entry salary (not a ton of money in the scope of NYC, but not a terrible salary for the job)
Do they let y’all actually WORK overtime though? At the two agencies I’ve been at where associates were eligible for OT it had to get approved ahead of time and usually they would send them home early that Friday to make up for it
Definitely depends on the agency. I was working 10 to 12 hour days at Havas, so working OT helped my paycheck a lot (not so much my sanity)
I know my friend at another agency qualifies for OT but her team doesn’t want her to actually ever work OT
First gig straight outta school I made $40K. 8 months later I made $60K. It should be noted though that I eventually got $$$ in owed back pay for overtime as my old agency sucked.
Yea havas starts you out at 45k , other bigger agencies offer more money
That’s brutal. And speaking from experience, my first job was at a small media agency getting $55, raised to $65 within a year. I can’t process how anyone lives on $45 or less in NY...
Aside from that number looking ok if you’ll likely see OT—how well do they know you? Were you an intern there and guarantee a certain expectation? I was able to negotiate up an entry level social role offer after being a social intern there for three months but I could make a case that they know how I work vs. hiring someone else.
It’s not a good time to negotiate. So many people have been laid off and so many others have been forced to take salary reductions. Agency revenue is shrinking and the future is unpredictable.
That being said, if you ask for more, they probably won’t walk away from you. They’ll either counter or say take it or leave it. But is the stress that come with asking worth an extra grand or two a year? I’d say no, but you do what you feel comfortable doing.
That seems low for NYC. I was close to that out of school in a much smaller market.