At client. Manager and Director share an office. Went by the office later in the day and Manager was having call with lead partner. Director had since left and Manager was talking sh**

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Does the director genuinely suck? I've seen that before. Otherwise the manager is going to end up looking like a total asshole and this is a self correcting problem.

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That's disgusting. Obviously you cannot trust the Manager. I hate back-stabbing political maneuvering. Did the Manager see you see him/her?

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Yes, rat him/her out to the Director under the guise of concern about client perception. Drama!

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I always take care of the people that take care of me, and never talk shit about anybody.

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If you rat him out, what's the difference between you and the manager. In my eyes, I'd see you as unprofessional as you are not affected by it at all

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No. We are 8 people and pretty sure everyone thinks Director is more competent. But partner likes the manager more, no question.

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Just saw your latest OP, you may want to do your director a solid and let her know.

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I would definitely rat her out like someone said earlier, under the guise of unprofessionalism. Can't stand people like this.

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About the director to the Partner. The client heard and was rolling their eyes. The Manager obviously didn't realize. Do I say anything? Found it incredibly unprofessional

No. I want to call her out on it. Really don't like it. Also, director is my PML, and I like her a lot

Ha

I've talked shit on Managers and Directors that I was working with to Partners. They genuinely deserved it though because they fucking sucked at their jobs, were billing more hours than allotted and not doing any work. Never within earshot of the client, though.

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