Besides paper and software any other ways to track billable hours?

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Can’t think of anything that would not be considered “paper or software.” Like … have a bunch of pebbles at your desk and put them in jars labeled by client/matter every 6 minutes? Sorry I got nothing.

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P1 yesssss! Thank you!

Use timers people. It's not that hard to click start as soon as you start work on a case.

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For me, billing as I do things throughout the day is key. For example, when a call ends look at what time it is vs when the call started and bill it, note what time you start working a task and bill it immediately when you stop, etc. I’m a third year and have been billing throughout the day like this since I started. I will never understand how people don’t do this. I could never go back to bill time a week later and remember whether I spent 6 or 7 minutes on something, and writing time down just to transfer it to your software seems like a total waste of time (just put it in your software in the first instance!). I know everyone has their own method and that’s fine, but for me any method other than this would be too time consuming/not make sense to me.

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I cannot stress enough to new generations looking for the easy different way to do this, Just Use Green Sheets. Scribble down your time as you work, just jot a +.3 as you move on to the next thing, then do your time every morning while you remember what you did. It's easy and everything else you do makes it harder. Just use green sheets and do time in the morning.

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I’d love those

I have ADHD and I forget to click when I move from one task to another

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OneNote has a time stamp for everything you type in there. Since I use it to help me with taking notes, creating to-do lists, etc. I am able to reconstruct my day quite easily. I also look back at phone records to see how much time a call took if for whatever reason OneNote failed me.

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Adhd associate. For whatever reason toggl timer works better for me than my billing softwares timers. More Intuitive I guess?

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I used toggl for awhile but switched to Clockify and am finding it works great! Something about toggl’s inability to export data in a format that worked for my secretary.

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I have a spreadsheet that I made. I input my client matter, time in and time out and it automatically pulls the client and matter number, calculates my time in .1 or .25 increments, as applicable, and has a space for me to jot down notes on what I did. Makes it super easy to sort and compile my hours at the end of the day when i put in my time

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I just spoke with a software architect that went back to school to learn software engineering after law school because it was more lucrative and had less hours. He’s worked his way up and has the skills and authority to work 6:30am-10am and gets to work remotely. We discussed that results/outputs is better than billable time like in law and public accounting. Yet, his parents and others would view him as “lazy” but he does his job and makes a fantastic living. Time>Money and Results>Hours

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Went from a big firm to work for a smaller firm. The people in the smaller firm are protective of their work and are good by their work too. I no longer feel chaos or stress. I am treated with respect and my schedule is more normal. I am even working more billable hours than before, but it feels like a seamless experience. I don’t work then past 5pm or anything out of the ordinary for this time of the year. I am so grateful!

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Idk, maybe it’s time we bring these engineers and techs down. If my 🧠 links to a 💻 , all of my non-billable work will come to light. 😤

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What’s your current billable rate and salary?

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Getting over heartbreak and having a full time job is torture lol. My boyfriend and I just broke up after almost a year of being together. It was such a beautiful relationship but ultimately he just didn’t love me. I love him so much. My mind knows that I deserve reciprocal love and I’m worthy, but I feel physically ill. My body hurts, my stomach is in knots, my head hurts. How is it that I have to mend a broken heart but also meet my billable hours lmao

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