Taking an informal survey how many firms (I) have the junior and midlevel summer associates plan the bulk of the summer events (lunches but also evening events) and (ii) count time spent on the summer program as qualified billable work (in that partners see how much you bill to it on your time sheet)?

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Former firm always made the female associates plan EVERYTHING. I’d spend an absurd amount of hours every summer running the program and the firm never counted it - only billables were considered for review.

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Someone reported my comment, I was literally expressing my experience at my firm

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Seriously, is your recruiting team not doing this? They should be planning everything unless you’re trying to do a small/exclusive activity with select attorneys.

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This, but also work assignments, evaluations, answering SA questions, etc. It just so happens to fall on female and gay male associates.

I do bill all of it, even though I’ve long since blown through the cap for credit for such things.

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Love how you conveniently left out minorities. ✌️

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