Does work life balance exist at any law firm? I have only worked at the same firm for a few years and the work life balance is not great & it doesn’t seem like it’s going to change. But, is it better the devil you know? Can anyone say that they’re at a firm that encourages a healthy, balanced life?

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My previous firm offered me a really great work/life balance but the pay was awful. It really was a zero stress job though, no weekends, no work after 5 — after 3pm people really wouldn’t even email you.

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My last two firms on the defense side encouraged work life balance, which didn’t micro manage when I come into the office, and when I leave. I had less work life balance on the Plaintiff side.

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I do insurance coverage litigation, insurer side. I do work a lot, but work life balance is very manageable. I don’t make the same big law money I used to but it’s still perfectly good comp and frankly I’d rather have my personal time than more money. I also get to work from home whenever I want and the partners are nice and really reasonable

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It depends on if you're willing to make less money. I make 130k in Oregon, but my I only have to bill around 1300. I bring in/bill roughly 4x my salary. It's a smaller firm, but I'm happy with the work/life balance and am willing to make less than others to keep it.

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6 YOE, going on 7. I also get 10% origination bonus (paid out monthly) and 20% bonus for anything I bill above 4x my salary at the end of the year. I think it's a good deal and I have time for myself and my family. I usually go into work at 10am and am done before 5p (excluding trials and early morning hearings).

I don’t think it exists in the private setting.

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I’m at a small litigation firm, billable requirement is 1700 a year. Pay isn’t at market (250k) but I get to work at 8:30 and leave promptly at 5:30. Rarely work weekends unless there is trial. Had to bounce around a lot before landing this gig though. Lawyering still sucks regardless of where you are imo.

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7 years. Pay is listed above.

I was at K&E for 6 years and left for a boutique of biglaw expats. It’s STRONGLY focused on work life balance and I love it. It took me two years of looking to find it.

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If you aren’t billing your time aka contingency there is a chance for good work life balance (unless you have a really low billable requirement)

I’m in house for a major carrier. Amazing work life balance and fully remote. Pay around 180k which isn’t great but it works for us since I have young kids.

I think my goal is to move in-house, how did you get to where you are?

My HR is pissed of that I work overtime sometimes. It’s only for like 2 hours. It does exist because there are money hungry and comepetive people who will take up all the hours

This comes up all the time - what do you consider work like balance?

If you want to turn your computer off at 5 and have weeks of vacation uninterrupted, no it doesn’t exist. But, there are a lot of firms that respect weekends. I rarely work on the weekends.

We work for clients - this is essentially glorified customer service. They call the shots.

In private practice time is money so the only real way to have work life balance is if you’re willing to make less money and the firm is willing to have you on at a reduced billable requirement 

Like many have said probably not. The billable hour+receiving a salary produces poor incentives. Every hour worked past a certain threshold is just profits to the partnership. If the firm is slow/doesn’t have a lot of work then maybe. The corporate department at a few big firms have been rather slow. Obviously those groups would not be hiring in such circumstances. Really you have to get onto the contingency treadmill (but even then as others have noted plaintiff side is challenging too), or better, take a paycut.

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