How do you all feel about colleagues who date and hook up with summers at your firm (or attempt to)? Does it damage their reputation and your perception of the firm? Not sure if I’m in the minority for feeling uncomfortable in the aftermath.

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It cannot be consensual where there is a power disparity. It cannot be consensual where one person controls the livelihood of another person.

As someone who has been harassed and coerced constantly, I promise you, the weaker parties' consent is very unlikely to have been freely given if that's possible at all given the dynamic and I am so fcking sick of being harassed at work and having to worry about my livelihood if I reject someone. A lot of men do retaliate pretty harshly and that has serious implications for my career. In some cases, it's lead to me having to quit on the spot and find new employment which means lost income!

The more senior person is a creep and has issues if they feel so strongly that they need to take advantage of that dynamics that they'd be willing to sh*t where they eat to do it.

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I had a male attorney involved in a love triangle 📐 with 2 blondes at work. I loved him too!

He got one pregnant while sending the other flowers 🌺🌹❤️. The pregnant employee got an abortion and quit.

She felt totally disgraced and dumped

My firm has a policy against it because of the power disparity. We’re encouraged to review summer associates even if our interactions with them are purely social, and we can recommend against hiring on purely social grounds.

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It's a good policy. I worked for a firm where an associate started dating the office manager. She had to quit and go work for another firm. Then they got married 💍💒💍

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Don’t sleep with interns. I thought we learned this in the 90s.

If it’s meant to be you can wait until they don’t work for you. Anything else is gross.

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Grown adults, if they are single, they can do whatever they want as long as it is consensual

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Wrong! It affects the firm culture if coworkers are sleeping together. Others in the office can be affected, especially when they break up 💔

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It depends on ages and power differential for me - I have limited issues with a 27 yo first year and a 27 yo summer who worked for awhile before law school making a connection (even if temporary), and many more issues with the 35 year old 7th year cruising through the k-jds every summer like it’s on their calendar

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I have a friend who manages a major REIT that fired his firm when he noticed that the female law clerks never became associates in their UK office. You noticing a dangerous environment and not wanting to be apart of it has power and I agree that I don't even want to be around sloppy people. It's so pathetic and gross. I'd leave if I were you!

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