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Is EY diversity a scam? Women promoted to partner but overall all white. In my office out West, many of us staff/seniors are Asian but despite there being Asian SMs, only white M/F get partner promote

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You will never ever optimize outputs for every dimension within any single population segment. This is utter madness

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I’d also keep in mind that it takes time to reach partner. Some of this is a result of making changes on diversity and Inclusion but you won’t see the benefits of a diverse senior class being partner for 8-10 years. Hence why inclusion is so important so people don’t fall off before they get to the top.

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This is spot on

Personally, it is grounds for questioning. Logistically, did you win more work than the people promoted?

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EY is actively promoting women just 10-11 years in because they want to balance the skewed ratio now. I get why they are doing it. But some of those they are promoting don’t even deserve to be in the pot. My point is if us in the junior ranks look around and see the majority (we are in the west coast, where this just happens to be the case) look like us and talk like us and very active east and South Asian senior managers who have solid accounts with repeated revenue streams (assurance) get told they need to wait a little longer just because white women need to be brought in from various cities and promoted, that seems unfair. I totally appreciate why women are being promoted but it’s coming at the cost of senior managers I look up to and are thrown to the wayside. Partners seem to care but there is also a NY bias where our leaders only want to fill national positions with NY folks, who are struggling with revenue growth.

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The goal of a diversity initiative is to expand applicant pools to the extent they become a representative sample of the general population. The reason we sample from the general population and not the qualified population is because the latter demographic distribution has been presumably tainted by past biases in the recruiting process. We can argue whether we should sample from an hypothetical applicant population where we subjectively customize the demographic distribution but personally I believe this would be unethical to do and I'd be happy to share why if you're interested. We cannot use the outcome of hiring to determine the success of our initiative because if we apply the same filter, or standard, to each applicant (which I believe is the only ethical approach), it is entirely possible that the demographic distribution our hiring class does not match that of the applicant pool. Given that that's the case, this isn't sufficient evidence to say our initiative was a "scam".

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Looking at the root cause of this may help: lack of work flexibility and support when women have children and try to come back to work make them leave consulting. It doesn’t have to be this way. This is the 21st century. A lot of work can be done remotely without being onsite Monday - Thursday week after week.

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Seriously? EY has some of the best parental benefits of any company...

There is bias that occurs from the moment they look at your resume, through speaking with you the phone, interviewing you in person, and all throughout your career. Diversity is something corporations have to “promote” in order to continue to attract and retain the best talent. When I say promote I don’t mean strictly adhere to. You can’t overcome biases of individual people with a corporate initiative. These biases are long-standing, deep, and cultural. We ALL have biases

There's a reason very hot white women are more successful medical sales reps. Maybe the client is more likely to buy from a certain type. Is that an internal issue or an external one?

Men make up 96% of the PPEDs in my slice of Advisory. Just 4% are women. The LT are well aware & there are twice monthly sessions to brainstorm ways to make things more equitable. Who knows how far we’ll get, but this thread is a good reminder to expand our focus beyond just Male vs Female.

I have referred 9 people of color ! 2 are currently going through the interview process but none of the have gotten a job. One thing in common ... they are all black!

Maybe some ... not all!

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Why are town Hall meetings so impersonal? They are all about awards / the number of people hired. I know FCB health is large, but we never hear from people who aren’t Executives. Last town hall, when discussing inclusion efforts, there were no people of color represented and one of the 4 pillars of diversity was centered around our “reputation as an organization” (that really rubbed me the wrong way). At my last agency those conversations were always led by people of color from every level.

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Lowkey, i feel like diversity groups or organizations are overrated, I found more opportunities from previous coworkers

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Good? Bad? Ugly? How was your experience with a manager or supervisor of the opposite gender, that you would like to share?

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How would you make the business case for adding more diversity to the workforce. I think we take it as a given that people will support this, but some people need to see $$ and #s to be moved.

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You CAN be that leader that people want to work with. 1st, self assessment is required. Be honest: As a leader,have you engaged in/accepted Attribution Bias with a dash of gender &/or race bias? (See the pic) This is something we all need to be aware of as we lead our teams, provide performance feedback, & model the behaviors we'd like to see more of on our teams. Be on the lookout for Attribution Bias in yourself & on your team. It's a hindrance to creating a high-performing, inclusive culture.

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Are we just not acknowledging AAPI Month? I haven’t seen any comms. on this and yet our social handles are posting about World Diversity Day? Come on.

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How do you respond to comments like “we just hire the best person of the job, regardless of race or gender”?

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Age - 23 Gender - Male Company - ZS associates Things I love to do - travelling and that too by road and cooking Finding someone with the same hobbies 😃

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I've often heard "diversity of thought" (i.e. conservatives) as being callously injected into the diversity convo. Typically this coming from white men. What are your thoughts on this?

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I have a bit of a dilemma and need some advice. My manager pushes really hard to recruit and hire only minority candidates. While I'm all for diversity, it feels unethical to exclude other qualified candidates just because they are a particular race and gender (white males). I've had to pass over a few candidates that were WAY more qualified and in my opinion would have made a much better fit. I don't know if there's anything I can or should do.

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Should we try our hand at matchmaking? Drop your age and gender and what you are looking for in the comments and maybe we can find your soulmate or at least a semi decent date

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What assurances are there that the older industry workers now raising the ageism banner will ever address ethnic diversity, when so many ignored diversity for years until it affected them personally?

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Curious about something so fun Friday night poll for y’all. If you are married, do you wear your ring regularly? Pls specify age, gender, and cultural background. Thanks!

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Yes! The stretching of "diversity” seems to be such a widespread symptom of this industry’s fear of addressing the uncomfortable realities of race within it. A distraction? Very “All Lives Matter” ...

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I am once again asking how are people finding cushy industry jobs? Currently have to ride out my indentured servitude at my current one for a year or so but looking at indeed/linkedin, i don’t see anything out there that looks better. Where are all the small to midsize businesses hiding? :(

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