KPMG or Deloitte? I have Manager offers from both. Former consultant going back after 4 years in industry. Salary is the same, both are Change Management roles (KPMG Transformation Delivery, Deloitte Human Capital). My best friend works at BCG and thinks I should go Deloitte for brand / future opportunities, but I find myself leaning KPMG as I think WLB might be better? Would love insights.

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

Curious (selfishly) at what the company range is foe both of these ? I’m also interviewing with both firms at the M/SM level

likefunny

Wow sorry, typos galore. Didn’t realize until now. But yes, comp at both companies :)

I just joined TD a few months ago as a manager (moved from another firm). I don’t mind it but I feel like consulting is consulting no matter where you go.

like

I’m ex D

If comp is the same - go to KPMG, I’m getting similar exit ops while working 75% of the hours.

Yes, Deloitte HC practice is best, but the hours come with the “prestige”, TD is a massive target growth practice for us, for strong performance, you’ll be set up for success, especially as a director

like

Am newly minted SM at deloitte hc. Had a similar choice at SC. WLB is good here!!

like

Whichever fit with the people is better. By far

like

Choose the people you feel most comfortable - per comments we didn’t lay off more people than anyone else during pandemic…and work life balance will be the same. Let’s be honest it’s still consulting. Deloitte is doing big push for better work life balance and I do feel it. Brand recognition is better with Deloitte agree with your friend…

like

I’m hearing horror stories of WLB at Deloitte but I’d love to hear your perspective and how they’re changing that

Been to both. KPMG

like

The D human capital rep is good but it’s mainly just consultants that know about that. Most industry hiring people won’t care that much about it, they just know the big 4. So go for less hours, same pay at K.

likehelpful

Deloitte will take you to other big fives in the future.

like

What were the offers if you don’t mind sharing? I’m also interviewing at both for manager.

like

If the goal is to eventually exit to industry than go with whichever firm is going to go be you the best quals / stories to tell when going back to industry. Personally I think Deloitte tends to get the “more impressive” engagements, but obviously I’m biased.

If you’re coming back to make Partner, then choose whichever one you think gives you the best combination of “get there quickly” and work life balance.

like

I came from kpmg and switched to a boutique firm

like

Federal or commercial practice?

Commercial

like

Didn't D layoff a ton of their human capital team during the pandemic? No knowledge of kpmg, but I think you'll be fine at either or since they're still big 4. Yes Deloitte might be slightly better brand recognition, but you'll still have to network for great exit ops in the future anyways.

At this point if you’re an M/SM you can do whatever you want bro. Just go wherever you’re getting the best vibe. Do a little research within your network and just try to ask around as much as possible.

Any reason in particular you assumed this person was a "bro". ?

like

Deloitte’s desperate right now for bodies. It’s good and bad but that’s where I would go. There will be more growth potentially and depending where you go you could have some good leadership.

Related Posts

I have 3 YOE at a T2 and 1 YOE in f500 Corp strat. How feasible (if at all) is a move to a post-MBA generalist role at an MBB?

like

Hi Sharks, Please let me know the in hand salary if I take 80C 1,50,000 and NPS 50,000 as exemption. IBM EY Infosys

Post Photo
like

I have 4.5 yrs of work ex and joining as ACON at KPMG. Will I get promoted to CON in next cycle i.e October 2023 or so I have to wait until October 2024?

like

Hi All,

Is it okay to join Mastercard Project from third party payroll?

like

I’m interested in becoming a product manager but I don’t think I have the right background. My background is in enablement/product training/L&D. I don’t have a technical background. I work closely with the PMs at my current company and would love to get to do what they do. Is it possible to be a product manager without a technical background? Are there any certification type programs that could boost my credentials and employers would actually care about? Or is this transition a pipe dream?

likesmart

Hello Fishes,
Hope you’re doing well

What automation on excel can be used for sales ops and sales compensation administration for global teams ? Any suggestions ?

like

MBRDI, how is the work culture? Hike and job security?

Is it a service based company?

like

Any creatives want to share what it’s like at Juliet?

like

Comp range for principals in Slalom Strategy? Also, anyone potentially willing to refer?

like

Hi will KPMG blacklist if we reject offer letter after accepting it.

like

Where is the KPMG (KGS) office location in Pune?

like

barclays vs ZS associate as a test engineer?

like

Is notice Period negotiable in Optum?

like

Does anyone have experience or know of someone who went on a FWA (part-time) but didn't have kids? I'm unmarried and no kids but considering a move to 30 or so hrs/week for my sanity.

like

EY, GT or RSM (Senior Position in Dallas) and why?

likehelpful
like

Anyone know what Sempa’s dress code is?

like

More Posts

Any insights on Ares Management NYC office? Looking at private equity role there, wondering about firm culture, what differences to expect coming from a consulting firm, etc

like

Hi fishes,
I just got an offer from a startup in India putting my total comp to 40LPA(incl. vested stocks work 8kUSD and I also have an offer from a big 4 in the London for 65250GBP + benefits.

Any thoughts on comparing the two options?

like

Looking for an entry level remote tech position. Honestly not picky, current TC is 111k anything close to that would be appreciated.

Hi guys, I’m a Cybersecurity graduate student. Would like to get into Crowe if anyone will be willing to refer me,
Thanks in advance,

likehelpful

Anyone have ideas for funny Consulting superlatives? Organizing an office party

like

Any recs for insightful and well written books on entrepreneurship? Friend is trying to launch his own startup so I’m thinking of sending him a relevant book as part of a thank you gift

like

For those who have started to participate in events for admitted students, how do you feel about your programs and potential classmates so far?

like

Not my dog but what a love bug 🥰

Post Photo
likeuplifting

Can you advise a young producer on working with exec creatives? How do you assert yourself & hold teams accountable to deadlines without making creatives feel as though you are challenging authority?

like

Looking to do a fall shoot for a client before the leaves have changed and fallen. I need prop leaves. Anyone have any ideas about how where to contact for a massive amount of fake fall leaves?

Hi! I had no idea this bowl existed until an Account Director at work told me about it today!!! I always thought I was the only sober one in this industry! Im so glad that there are more of you. 😅💓

like

Any tips or words of wisdom as we prep for the panel presentation and Q&A?

like

Advice needed, my friend purchase Uipath for $88 now it is down to $8. He doesn't have much money and doesn't get paid very much. He used his entire inheritance and invested in Uipath and Palantir. What would you suggest sell or continue to hold?

funnylike

How many matters is typical for one associate to handle (BL lit)? I know it is group-specific, but just trying to get a general idea. I’m a 2nd year and I am the only associate staffed on about 30 cases-meaning I keep track of all deadlines, do all day to day assignments, keep on top of following up with client/OC, and all research/drafting. Partners handle deps/court but that is about it. Is this a normal case load to be responsible for as a jr? I being dramatic by thinking this is too much?

like

I am to interview with CTS for Product owner/ manager. Any specific things I should watch out for? Interviewing for Duckcreek. What’s the salary range I can expect?

like

How is NTT global data services based on job security and salary on time

Muhahhahahahhaha , I haven’t even voted once in India yet 😂😂

Post Photo
funny

My theory- Vettel was smart to get out of Ferrari with 2021 rule changes, and since it is a ‘level playing field’ he might go to a dark horse minion who might have a ‘Team Brawn’

like

Which agencies in San Francisco are weathering the storm the best? I haven’t seen much about layoffs or furloughs. It seems like the bigger agencies in NY have been hit harder.

like

With a recession around the corner - two questions:
1) will there be layoffs at Deloitte? My concern is we hired so much ppl this year.
2) will there be more work in org design? Just saw the Robinhood 9% workforce layoff announcement.

likehelpful

Additional Posts in Org Development & Human Capital

Anyone in here aligned to people analytics at PWC? Got a recruiter reaching out about it. Anyone willing to share your thoughts, the work you do, the team, the clients? Etc

likehelpful

Is the SPHR or PHR license necessary to pivot into human capital? I have a MBA from a Top 15 school. Any thoughts?

For comms folks, what best practice do you use when having clients review communications to be sent to a large audience? IME, Too many opinions causes a delay in messaging.

like

I’m currently working in due diligence and have a long term goal of moving into corporate HR. What skill sets would be most useful and what books/ thoughts leadership should I read to develop into a HR leader?

like

What is your preferred HRIS Platform and why? Here are the options:

-Workday
-Oracle
-SAP
-ADP
-Ultimate
-Ceridian
-Other (if other, please name the system)

like

Anyone ever move from an internal role to one with external clients? I manage a learning function for a line of business and pondering the next move: industry, startup, consulting...

I have 15+ broad exp. mainly small companies. Through extensive career path research I discovered id like to focus more on the people side of things. i/o Psy, ppl analytics, Culture, etc. i am applying for CHM positions, based on my exp. to get a foot in the door. Im not really sure thats what I want to focus on but I see that as the best way to be able to transiton into a more people focus position. Anyone been through this or have insight on career paths, job functions that cld be pursued aftr

like

What professional organizations in this field are you a part of or do you recommend joining? SHRM,ATD,OD Network?

like

Do different companies have a methodology dedicated to technology change? Like tech implementation? Or is it specific to the product? Or high level to org change?

$118K offer from Deloitte for Senior Manager (GPS) in Human Capital Work Group - seems low? They won't go any higher.

funnylikehelpful

Hi all, thoughts on the change management certification (CCMP) versus PMP or similar?

What is the best way to study for a PHR?

Hi All, I’m thinking about getting certified in change management but not sure if I should go the Prosci route or CCMP route. CCMP is a lot cheaper compared to Prosci but would it measure up just the same?

I guess it would be similar to the discussion of the SHRM-SCP vs SPHR.

like

I was contacted for Accenture T&O Strategy Manager role and am curious about the typical salary range for this role. Any insights?

like

Looking to transition into an HR leadership position. 17+ years experience in running a startup managing 50-100 people (15 years) and handled all facets of hiring, firing, compensation, negotiation, training and employee relations. Responsibilities also include other non HR functions such as business dev., client relations and expansion, logistics. Currently studying for the SPHR and plan to take the GPHR as well. Thoughts on difficulty of moving into an HR leadership role?

like

Does anyone have any insights into what Mckinsey Academy does and how that's different from their regular "Human Capital" practice?

like

What are the rankings for top consulting firms in the human capital space? (Big 3, big 4, +++)

What are the best workplace coaching certification programs in the industry? I was referred to integral coaching (new ventures west), and wondering what are other highly regarded programs.

like

I’m a recruiter who would like to eventually pivot to HR but I don’t have an HR degree. I’m considering pursing a Masters degree however am torn between HR or Org Psych/Org Development. Would love to hear folks’ perspective of either degree!

likehelpful

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal