Most billable hours in a day (within 24 hours)? Mine has been 20 and I’ve hit that 2x this year.

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Also 20. Other 4 were for meals/breaks/contemplating why I do this job.

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I'm sure that work between hours 12 and 20 was super high quality 😂

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Better quality than if it wasn’t done! 😉

RSM, meet Deloitte. You should take a lesson from them or maybe meet up on their boat. I will never understand why folks take pride in the “who bills more” game. It’s a lost cause... only benefiting the suits while putting your health at risk. Y’all if COVID has taught us anything, it’s there is more to life than just billables.

OP, Hope you get some rest before having a stroke or heart attack. This isn’t healthy. And I’m speaking as a self diagnosed workaholic. There’s a fine line between giving it your all and letting your employer compromise your health and safety.

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Is that normal among your peers? To be honest it’s not unusual if you work on due diligence or on a tight deadline with minimal resources. In some situations, there is no other options and that’s a resourcing issue.

In my opinion however, a lot of time management has to do with paying attention to what your boss - and his/her boss - cares about, then spend time there. It’s not obvious early in your career but that is a skill you’ll need to build up. You simply cannot spend 2-3 hours formatting a slide that will be in the appendix that no one will look into.

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My office is extremely understaffed right now. So yeah everyone is working crazy hours. Idk about that many in a day. Most of mine are due to tight deadlines

There is no way that you legitimately billed 20 hours in a 24 hour period. That’s just not possible.

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Sit at a laptop 24 straight hours. Only get up to eat, go to the bathroom and even phone time thrown in. Tight deadlines.

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This is my first year and I’m dying.. send help

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I don’t work in big law, but some of my classmates,who are going into big law, are bragging about the low number of billable hours they are required to hit. I’m hearing 1,600-1,800 billable hours. Is this actually true? Are some firms paying Cravath and only requiring 1,600 for the year? I know it depends on the firm, but can anyone actually confirm this is their experience? If so, then I’m a little jealous 🙃

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Bonus Structures:

Looking for a comparison to what other firms are offering and how this one stacks up. Ours is working out a brand new bonus structure:

Our general targets are 75% util. Billable or qualified non-billable time. Bonuses will be $1000 per quarter just meeting that. $25/ hr for every billable hour beyond that on top.

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I moved cities and my company is giving me 12% decrease in my salary. My current salary is within my new cities range, and I am definitely not paid market rate to begin with…also for context I have always been a high performer, have many relevant certifications, and am involved with initiatives outside my billable work

I’m not interested in accepting a decrease this large. What happens if you don’t accept it? Do you see if they come back with something more reasonable or will they fire you?

To the post below- it is quiet, so I’ll bite!
Does anyone know about associate compensation at the regional Atlantic Canada firms? The the big ones have all been posting job ads for associates in the 3-5 year range. Any insight on salary and billable targets?

How many real hours does it take to reach 8-10 billable hours? First year associate here wondering what a 8-10 billable hour day would look like now that I’m seeing my workload ramp up slowly but surely.

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Billable rate jumped 11% once our fiscal year began July 1…. Smells like a raise??

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Honest discussion about burn out: it is with you for the long run.
I burnt out at my last job and the job before that and now I’m at a really good firm that has no set billable hours and a really manageable workload, but it’s still difficult to get any work done. It will take a long time to fully recover from burn out.

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Did the billable hours bonus not get paid out today? Or is it to be paid in the next check?

Tasked with improving our Consulting groups time reporting rules (non-billable and billable hours). Fellow consultants, any recommendations or thoughts on how to revamp business rules?

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Looking to leave a govt job for a junior attorney role in a small workers comp defense firm. I have no experience in workers comp. How easy is it to learn the work and make 1850 billable hours? What future opportunities does this experience give?

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Have any of you taken "low bono" clients while working at a firm? I want to take on a low bono client or two but not sure who would get the money. This is a contract opportunity through a non profit so I'm assuming a 1099 will be issued. The per hour rate is significantly less than my billable rate. I would (obviously) like the money but my real objective is just getting experience/networking since I recently moved to a new state and don't have clients of my own.

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Obligatory financial info post. 1) size of firm, 2) billable requirements, 3) salary, 4) bonus, 5) quality of life, 6) debt, and and 7) family/married/single. Go!

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I am a 10 yr lawyer. 7 yrs in my practice area. Little over a year at current firm. Still an associate. Im at large plaintiff firm w/ billable requirements. I do mass/class cases and hold a couple leadership positions (these were competitive to get). What should salary be and when should I make partner. I’ll add I work remote and pretty autonomously. Little contact with partners or anyone at my firm.

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I started my first in-house role about 4 months ago and I don’t think it’s the right fit. I love the no billable hours aspect, but otherwise I miss the structure of being at a firm. How long do you think I should try to stick this out before I move on? I want to give the job a real shot - and i know the transition to in-house can be jarring…but I also don’t want to spend too much time in a job that is a wrong fit.

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Thoughts on leaving law to become a contract manager? Small law experience. Billable hours driving me nuts. Is there growth potential in house from a contracts manager position?

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Received a job offer. Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on a concern I had about it. It's an entry level position, and I don't have much experience. The billables are 2040 a year. For billable hours in civil litigation and insurance defense, is 2040 hours for a 1st year associate on the high end in this field for a small or midsize firm? It seems like most attorneys I know have minimum requirements of around 1800. The compensation is around 80k a year.

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M/23/Cleveland OH/50k with about 3 years of experience. Reaching a critical point of utilization (I'm at about 140 billable hours a month) and considering asking for a raise. What should I aim for?

Is it just me or the average billable work in infrastructure transactions has blown off steam in the last couple of weeks?

Does anyone have experience working for a ALSP? How does compensation work (pay and benefits)? Are you an employee or technically an IC? Do you have billable requirements like at a firm? How do you think it prepared you to potentially move in house? I'm currently at a firm but thinking of taking a position with an ALSP but my goal is to go in house.

What does life look like for someone to hit 2300+ billable hours?

I’m a first year attorney at a small plaintiff’s firm. My firm has guaranteed me a $10k bonus at the end of 1 year without regard for my billable hours. They’ve also stated if I hit 2300 billable hours in my first year, they’ll add an additional $15k.

If my math checks out, that means I need to be billing ~45 hrs per week. But with only like 60% of my assignments being billable—how do I hit 2300+ and not die?

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