My firm gave me a huge raise, but keeps giving me nothing but the most absolute garbage cases. This December they gave me a 2.5x bigger raise than any other associate got, even when I was already making more than any other associate. It’s a commercial litigation firm but my caseload is contingency personal injury cases and oddball cases with tough clients no one else is willing to get near. I brought this to management’s attention at my end of year review but nothing is changing. (Continued…)

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That’s called being pigeonholed. You are filling a niche need for them. They’re happy you’re doing it and will pay you handsomely to do so. It’s not likely they’ll let you out of it now- that’s what the raise was for.

It comes down to whether you can live with that box they’ve put you in.

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You’re the guy they give all their radioactive garbage to. Couldn’t tell you why they want those types of cases, but they do (for as long as they have someone to do it.)

They won’t change and if you want one you’re going to have to look elsewhere.

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I work here too, they gave me a bigger raise than you.

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Shots fired!

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Are you willing to take a pay cut for easier cases?

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(Continued) I feel like I need to keep looking for a new firm because nothing is changing. It’s incredibly frustrating because all the other associates are working with partners on interesting, hourly cases and I’m slugging it out in the trenches on my own running the cases no one else will go near. It seems obvious that an associate who’s been here a third of the time I have has gotten good work right from the beginning and is on a track for partnership where I am not. There’s no way for me to advance with the types of cases I’m being fed.

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Yea I have kind of set in my mind that I’m going to talk to HR (who has a role in passing these messages along) and the head of litigation to explain that this isn’t okay and I’m not going to keep putting up with this

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You’re like a miracle worker for them. They bring you garbage cases and you’re generating revenue like squeezing blood from a rock. Might be time to bounce if they dont re-position you based on your requests.

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