My hours have been insane lately and I’m burned out of biglaw. 3rd year associate. I have an offer at a boutique corporate firm, ~10 attorneys, billables super reasonable (under 1500), $130K+ decent bonus. It’s a cut from Cravath, but worth it or no?

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Yes especially if you are burnt out.

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I just made a similar switch. I love my decision.

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Are your loans paid off?

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Super burned out corporate associate over here. Have paternity leave coming up, hoping that will allow me to reset a little bit (I’m sure it won’t be too relaxing haha).

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You can also talk to your firm about a reduced work schedule. Lots of firms offer going halftime with half the pay, or 80/80, etc. Probably equals to around the same amount of pay and the same hours, but you get to stay at the big law firm, which means: A: better exit options, and B: the option to ramp back up once you feel rests and want those Benjamin’s again.

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Be very careful with this, I did it and it was not respected at all.

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We’ve a few reduced workload associates/counsel in our team and (1) they’re quite senior (7+ years) and (2) they’re young mothers so they negotiated the flexible/reduced hours when they came back from parental leave. I’m a third year and I thought about this but was told by several folks that it will not be received well in the firm and there’s a chance of being siloed etc. I found an in-house gig and starting next month!

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If you don’t want it, I’ll take it. Joking aside, seems like a really good opportunity. Congrats!

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