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This should be applied to new business pitches too. But never will be until the model is completely overhauled.
Director's treatments are critical. I don't know why they have to cost so much. Most of it's just writing.
It’s called a resume, work experience and an interview process.
Ultimately, if the company doesn’t like you after trying you out, they can always fire you. This isn’t, like, Europe.
Ha, well, that’s where I’m from originally.
It’s one thing to ask for a writing sample or past examples of work, but always say no to current client assignments or give them your day rate for the work in return.
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No to paid tests as well. (you are effectively lowering your rate because you price your “tests” lower than actual work)
No free work.
Tech companies are some of the biggest perpetrators of this. Amazon, Google, Facebook all ask candidates even at the executive level to do online assessments, fake presentations or case studies.
Amazon salary is fine but that stock is house down payment money after a few years.
Not sure I agree. I’ve had candidates present work that wasn’t theirs, and hired them into roles where they weren’t able to perform. If you’re genuinely interested in a role and want to be considered, are you willing to put your neck out and help people understand how you problem solve? I can do my own work and I’m too busy to shop for free work, but when I have a lot of it and need smart people on my team, I want to understand how they problem solve so I can trust that i’m adding a person to my team that can help move the business and our team forward.
Part of getting paid is demonstrating the strengths you have that are worth paying for.
Then bring them on as a freelancer for a week or a day. No free work!
💯 this.
Welcome to the barrel fellow crabs!
As someone who is trying to break into the ad industry this is relatable. All I’ve been doing is networking and applying everywhere. The two interviews I had…well both wanted ‘test work’. Like dude look at my book, look at my resume, look at my LinkedIn. I’m qualified.
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Yeh this is the other side of the coin isn’t it… when you are trying to break in, or even when you are jobless and trying to put food on the table – feels hard to dash your chances by ‘just saying no’.
I kind of feel like there’s more to it right. Like charge a freelance fee for it. Or discuss with the person why they need it. And what do you do if it’s mandatory and company policy? Does it mean you’ll never work there? Is it that simple?
Some people can’t be choosy and this is not helping when companies force this on people.
Today, I was asked to do that for the third time in a matter of 6 weeks.
I see your point OP but asking a potential employer to pay you to do a test for a job will probably not end in the cotton-candy cloud of pay rates you're imagining. If you don't want to do it, politely move on. They'll eventually find someone who wants the role bad enough who will.
And exactly: you’ll move on and they will, too. It never hurts to ask if they’ll pay; ends up being a litmus test of sorts. Do I want to work for a company taking advantage of others in that way? Nope. It’s telling for both sides.
@ACD1 Then renegotiate what you’re willing to respond to. Think I’m real time. No one wants to belabor the process. There are risks on both sides. Step into the ring and offer something. There are a lot of good people and interesting candidates looking for work.
I’m so grossed out by this. I can understand asking for a body of work, or offering statistics on how a program you developed or worked on made an impact but doing free work is not an ethical interview tactic. Just wow.
I've been both on the receiving end of this and I'm doing it when I'm hiring, too. It's amazing how many people straight up lie on their resume and I burnt myself before, assuming that if someone has "senior" or "executive" level experience - they will be at the standard I am looking for. Of course there's those who abuse - for example Spotify was doing "student challenges" for a few years where one had to solve a market penetration challenge, where you signed that they own your idea as soon as you hit submit (i fell for it) and the prize was one unpaid summer internship. That shameful. But if i want to see what my next hire's way of thinking or approaching things is, then I will ask for that draft. Because I can promise you that from a 2 day research, they won't be able to fix an issue or build a strategy i can't.
I’ve been interviewing around at FAANG companies. Happy to share examples of work or do a case study. That’s fine in my book because the few hours I put into the assignment could result in me doubling my income. However, a non FAANG tech co asked me for a 30-60-90 plan and told them I wasn’t interested in unpaid consulting work in the nicest way possible.
I just heard from someone else last week that they were asked to write a 30-60-90 plan and present them to two different groups as part of the interviewing process. WHAT?!? That’s insane. Good for you for telling them no.
Is this more ok in certain European markets where they’re interviewing non-Euro applicants to potentially sponsor and it’s hard to fire someone once hired?
i was given a week to tackle an existing client brief for a strategy role @ Translation, then presented my ideas/thinking (20 slides) in a group interview. 😓
this occurred last year midway through the pandemic. felt wrong but i was out of a job and went with it. didn’t make it past that round, and thankfully so.