What to do if you do not want to climb up the consultant ranks? I came to realize that the EM role is not attractive to me - rather stay on SC/ AS rank. Any consultancy offering such a model?

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This depends on your interests and aspirations of course, but would encourage you to think about what you enjoy about those ranks and determine if there are roles in industry or expert type roles in consulting that will allow you to keep doing that kind of work but still pursue some kind of upward trajectory.

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Thanks! I do like the project work, also including operational projects - but do not want to get into sales/ managing multiple projects - thinking about reaching out to some strategy consultancies and specifically asking if such a role can exist

Same position. Don't need more money. Don't want more stress or responsibility. Feel like there is plenty of challenge to keep me busy. I've heard of my most firms, mine included, being up or out :/ Would love to hear of great alternatives.

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Slalom maybe? Pretty flat hierarchical structure

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You can be a terminal senior in Federal forever if they can keep you billable

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Yeah that’s what I meant

Slalom does not have an up and out model. You could stay a consultant or solutions architect forever if you wanted

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Their are local boutiques that aren’t “up or out” additionally their are roles within Deloitte which we call specialists where you can stay the same rank for a few years with no pressure to progress

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Nope. Pay bands are the same. It’s not about the project it’s about career path. Specialists have a specialty - a technology or specific industry functional knowledge - for which they are known and continue to develop that skill set (say interoperability, Workday, SAP, clinical background in healthcare). If you like writing interfaces and leading interface teams, you can do that forever (for example).

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I work at a local botique consulting firm and we don't have an up or out. We have consultants and a senior leadership team. The flat structure enables employees to provide great client service but not kill themselves internally.

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I am looking for that sanity space as well. But I worry about the optics whenever I do exit... would it make me look like I was not good at my work if I stay Senior for 5+ years. If I do exit, I need to be kid senior level and not as an analyst

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Who cares if you’re leaving?

I suspect that you can work something out as long as you are performing. I wouldn't close the door on em. Maybe ask for another year to prep for it and say you aren't ready.

Deloitte has a specialist career model that does offer some flexibility to focus more on domain expertise and less on project management, at least to an extent, but there still are some overlapping expectations, and the levels within specialist still come with increased responsibilities—at the senior level that translates to mostly using your eminence as an expert to generate sales.

Up or out does not apply in the specialist track, you can move at your own pace, although in some cases if you stay at a level long enough they will kind of assume that is as far as you’ll go.

AlixPartners is not up or out.

We don’t have an up or out model either

Please post this in our bowl, you're not the only one and there are some "hidden" options! Just can't discuss them here

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