Anyone have to deal with office drama? My office manager is a pain in the butt to deal with and causes unnecessary drama. Sometimes it gets to the partners. If its about me I like to speak up but I worry that I’ll get fired for speaking up.

likehelpful
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

You think you’ve seen drama? Just wait until you make partner and get to go through end of year maneuvering for points and partner bonus allocation etc. You ain’t seen nothing yet!

like

I feel like there’s a juicy backstory here . . .

like

Who doesn’t deal with office drama? If there are people involved, there will be drama. In my experience, office managers who play favorites with partners never survive because partners come and go and the partner snubbed last week is the huge rainmaker this week. I see many office managers treat associates badly assuming associates don’t stick around and have no power. It is very unlikely you will be fired for sticking up for yourself to an office administrator, although your life may be uncomfortable for awhile.

like

Office manager is a tough job. Very hard to keep everyone happy. Our Firm culture requires that all our employees, attorneys and staff treat one another with respect. Violations are just not tolerated. Office managers often find themselves in the middle. Our office manager is excellent. If I (the managing partner in the office) have a concern with how she handled a situation, we talk about it. Have you discussed the situation with the office manager? And in a non-confrontational way? If that does not help, you should be able to discuss it with a partner without being concerned that raising the topic will gave adverse consequences. If your firm does not operate that way, consider looking for a new firm.

like

Deal with this daily at my firm. We have paralegals that think they run the show and unfortunately, the managing partners allow it. If you're on her shit list, watch out. I speak up and get chastised. Thankfully, my direct department head is amazing so I keep to my department and try my hardest to stay out of theirs. Office drama is such a headache.

like

Seems to be part of their job description

funny

Yeah I definitely feel this. In the past for me, it just wasn’t worth the effort of speaking up. Especially bc the OM was the worst when I was first starting out. I was told very early on to get everything in writing & that has been very helpful. I also feel as time goes on and I’ve learned the firm politics -the OM pulls less crap now. I have really spoken up when it had to do with my assistant. But I’ve always been better about speaking up for others than speaking up for myself.

One of the partners at my firm treats me like a child. I just rolled with it for a while until she called me into her office to ask me to justify time I billed to a different partner’s client/matter. Then I spoke up, and I got a few phone calls from other partners asking me not to quit. Things have generally been much better since I said something. It wasn’t the same kind of “office drama,” but sometimes you have to stand up for yourself.

Yep 😁

I was in this situation once. I was able to bond with this person over personal interests. Yes it was playing office politics but it was worth it.

Related Posts

I am a sixth-year associate overseeing a second year. They are an exceptionally good associate. I am honestly shocked at the work product I receive and the way they go above and beyond. The issue I have is that they sometimes take awhile to turn things around. For example, I ask for a draft response to the client, and they take three-four days. I know they’re busy, but I would like to address this in a positive way. Any suggestions?

like

I was released without cause today but my boss mentioned my battle with mental health and that I’m looking for other jobs before canning me. Should I address this with the board or leave it alone?

like

How did you give notice you were lateraling to people you like? Particularly if you haven't been there that long?

I'm lateraling to another firm because frankly I think the management of this one is terrible, but the people (and individual partners) I actually work with are awesome. I've only been here for about 18 months, so I imagine that short time frame will make it extra awkward 😬

like

PARTNERS: two questions —1. If you see an associate has really low hours for the month, do you imagine them chillen on a beach somewhere or do you consider they probably spent most of their days sitting in front of the computer being “available”? 2. If you send an associate a random e-mail on a weekend like “Can you pull X and send to Y”, would you get annoyed if they responded saying they weren’t by a comp or would you consider it reasonable that they wouldn’t be by a comp on a weekend?

like

My MD sneaked up on me so quietly just now that I jumped out of my chair when he dropped off comments :/

like

Anyone have any idea when the hiring freeze might end within AWS ProServ? I’m currently at Amazon and have a TS clearance, PMP & CSM. I come from a Big4 consulting firm with a background in Enterprise Performance. I’ll be honest and say I’m not feeling very safe in my current role with the ongoing layoffs. Instead of leaving, I’d love to go back to my “consulting roots” and join the ProServ team. I’m taking my AWS Certified Cloud Practitioner exam next weekend. Hoping this freeze is lifted soon.

like

What are your tips on convincing a fellow employee not to switch agencies? I really don't want to compete with them

like

I accepted a position and i don’t start until December 7th. I’m the only accountant on the team at my current company (small company). Would you tell them now or wait until two weeks before you start at new job?

like

I'm not sure what else I did other than being respectful and not giving flip at the same time but (4) mature ladies in my office flirt with me every chance they get. Some of my M colleagues are beginning to notice and giving the prod. I must confess it comes with some perks as I do appreciate how fast they process my requests/orders which a M colleague literally told me is biased. Recently one of them offered to bring me her cooked food and asked that I do the same..(Cont'd)

likefunny

What’s the overall feeling about presentation attire? Suit and tie?

like

Tips for managing difficult employees? It's my first time having direct reports and they challenge EVERYTHING. How do I motivate them and get them working with me instead of against me?

like

I often feel that if you have a Associate product manager profile name in your linkedin, people show less acceptance of linkedin request as compared to a Product Manager name.

You get associate-level respect. Associate matlab intern samajh rakha hai...

like

Im sure people have seen the anti-Asian violence that’s gone on in the US. I have several colleagues who are Asian American that I’ve been friendly with for many years (in some cases over a decade). I know that at least some are extremely nervous about things right now. Have people in similar situations said anything to their colleagues? I’m not a very sensitive person and am really not good at this type of thing, but I really want them to know we see what’s going on. Any thoughts appreciated.

like

Hows the industry doing in MENA right now? Any worries about a potential crash? Are firms still hiring? Based in the US and everything is tense here with the recent tech layoffs

like

What is your recommendation for how a Junior member can work well with Executives, Partners, Directors, etc. on a daily basis? For context, I am a PM for an engagement that has me communicating with really high up members from every angle.

like

Has anyone ever been "let go of"? Either laid off or fired. How did you get through it?

like

@women in the ME, I’m moving from NYC to Dubai. Is there some things to consider for attire in a business environment or is it the same as in NA? I’m thinking about business travel to other countries like KSA 👀

like

What do you think of today’s (6/9) IBM major worldwide Cloud outage? Could it be related to the recent major layoffs?

like

Is anyone willing to share tips on avoiding burnout and setting boundaries with their executives? I have six people on my desk and am finding it difficult to stay motivated and continue giving everyone the same level of support.

like

Is it common practice in Singapore for firms to have a probation period for new joiners (duration at their discretion), during which new joiners can be fired at a week’s notice period?

More Posts

Is CSPO certification helpful??

like

Let's make this group better. Suggestions?

Thinking to drop a few YT videos on fashion, clothing, grooming etc

like

I know every holding company has different titles but trying to understand SVP, EVP GAD or executive director of media (or equivalent ) salaries at an agency in Chicago.

likehelpful

I have 2 offers one from my Current company and one from Cisco my current company is giving 10 percent more than cisco Where should I go should I join cisco or stay in my current company( a small stablished startup )Considering my final goal as FAANG (similar) and I come from a Small College Cisco Amazon Uber Walmart

like

Not sure if this is the best place but I have my first round with JPM for quantitative research analyst but not sure what to expect. Can any one share any insights or pointers? Been really looking for this opportunity and not sure where to start besides brushing up on my work experience. Any technicals or coding questions that I should anticipate?

like

Hi Fishes,

Please help me get 11+ likes.

like

Okay 🦍🦍🦍 it looks like enough 💎🙌💎 hodor'd with full strength yesterday. For all of you who refused to be taken for a ride by 🐍, hold fast. THE SQUEEZE IS NOT YET SQUOZE.

By all accounts there is still over 100% of float currently shorted. As much as WS loooves to liken themselves to 🐂, they're just the 🤡 in the bullpen. You rode the dip and kept buying. We are going into Monday fully-tanked up on liquid fuel.

Woogity-Woogity-Woogity team
IT'S🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀 TIME!

*Not a fin. advisr, just a dum-dum

Post Photo
likeuplifting

Why do people quit under PIP? Couldnt you stay and prove that you are improving?

like

I joined KGS 4 months back. I am taking home loan now. Do I need to inform about my home loan to any one in our company? Any one please help me with this query? Infosys KPMG Tata Consultancy Accenture PwC Wipro EY Cognizant

like

Has anyone ran a migration / conversion from SAP Simple Finance 1503 to S4 1809? Technical conversion only. Can you share approximate timeline and any learnings?

like

I am A2 in PwC AC Bangalore in Management consulting - I want to shift to US office due to some reasons. Can anyone please elaborate the intercompany transfer / internal rotation process? Like where to apply? what are the requirements?

likefunny

Hey Fishes,

Does anyone know any reliable password generator and store application within PWC app store or network?

There is multiple applications and I dont want to strore passwords outside of pwc or in google linked pwc account

like
like

Favorite road trips out of LA for a 3 day weekend?

Any ideas how EY comp compares to Deloitte?

like

Does anyone have any advice on how to shift from a specialist (paid advertising) to a more strategic (in digital marketing) role? I've been job searching for a couple of weeks and would love to be considered for roles outside paid advertising but it seems to be extra challenging this time of the year.

like

How am I expected to bill 1900 hours when I only have 8 cases and when I ask for work no one responds. I even asked the partner in person for work and he said he was slow and didn’t have anything for me.This month I’ve only billed 80 hrs. Its making me anxious because I don’t want to get fired for low hours but also I’m a first year so will they have some mercy on me? Lol

like

Additional Posts in Law

I am a consumer debt collection attorney at a major regional firm specializing in that field. Ask me anything about my job.

like

Litigators that transitioned to M&A/PE early on in their career, how did you do it? I have an educational finance background, but no work experience in that area (just some general business consulting) & trying to get my foot in the door…

like

Aside from just time and experience, is there anything I can actively do to advance in my career and get more responsibility / client interaction? I’m a first year

like

Anyone work for the USPTO as an Attorney Advisor? How is it?

like

An actual Attorney's work history on LinkedIn....
I feel this in my soul.

Post Photo
likefunnyupliftinghelpful

Is the marginal value of a second clerkship truly worth the opportunity cost? Is the first? Obviously SCOTUS is a different story, but what's wrong with doing one district or one appellate only?

like

Does anyone here work in-house? Or as an outside GC to a company?

like

Anyone here work in-house and sit in an open office environment? I sit next to accounts receivable and some marketing folks and can’t focus even with earplugs in. Any advice would help.

like

What’s your love language?

Where my fellow government attorneys at?

like

My local Safeway is already stocking Valentine's Day chocolates. What would they do without holiday candy to sell? Is this their main purpose? I wonder what they do in off season (if that exists)

likefunny

Has anyone received what seem like unfair reviews that came out of nowhere? How do you handle it?

like

I do a mix of corporate governance and securities law. Is it wrong to pass on tax questions? I truly don’t understand tax law and feel incompetent to answer tax questions with any accuracy.

like

Not law quite law related but I could use some input: anyone have any luck negotiating lease pricing with a corporate landlord? I originally signed and got covid pricing and now they want to hit me with a 17% increase bc of inflation 🙃

like

To those attorneys who went from defense (not just ID) to do plaintiffs work - have you been doing better financially? I am so sick of the billable hour model and client reporting guidelines. I’m located in the Midwest/St. Louis - decent market.

like

Anyone else having trouble focusing today? Every time I have a long break and come back to the office I’m reminded how much I don’t like my current job. ID Associate and I have such a hard time concentrating even after a week off. I find it mind-numbing and unfulfilling. I’m never excited to come to work anymore for the past few months now. Just found out from a legal recruiter that I’m also way underpaid here. Hopeful I’ll get a job in a diff area of law or find another calling altogether.

like

Has anyone taken  ACAMS Certified Global Sanctions Specialist (CGSS)? Any comments/ reviews? How has it enhanced your employability? Why did you take the CGSS?

like

V20 NY, firm expectation is to bill 2K-2.4K a year. What happens if I bill 1800? How long until I get fired?

I can handle getting a talking to, or even getting berated. But when will real repercussions happen?

Fwiw, I’m a first year.

like

I accepted a job offer in April to start a few months from now, post clerkship. All conflicts/background check went smoothly etc. Since accepting my offer, the firm has increased their 1st year pay across the board to be higher than my offer was (which was, at the time, what 2nd yeas got). When should I reach out to the recruitment attorney leading up to my start date? Or should I? (Haven't spoken since May) Should I bring up the salary or just assume its higher?

like

I’m a first year. Getting a heavy case load - general liability, med mal, FELA, and products. I don’t really know how to organize my outlook email inbox. Any suggestions on where to start would be great. I’ve struggled with being organized in the past and obviously looking to improve in this respect. Thanks.

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal