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Cool job offer for AD
I got the job. That is all.
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Be prepared to walk if they say no. And in my opinion, most of the time it can create a weird relationship afterwards if they match and you stay. BUT only you know the relationship you have with your manager and whether they will take it personally or if they will root for you to stay and get what you deserve.
Express your desire to stay, emphasize what you like about the company and team. Basically make it seem like the ONLY thing pushing you to leave would be money. If that's true, then good luck with the counter offer. But if there's something else you're not happy with, then money won't fix how you feel about those issues
I’ve done this twice at my current agency. Both times I brought the offer to my manager, saying i wanted to stay with the company but couldn’t turn down the $. Both times agency matched the offer.
You obviously have to be prepared to give notice. But I don’t think it’s looked down on - talent retention is important, after all. Also in many cases, getting offers from other agencies is the only way to get more money.
First time it wasn’t signed (I had always planned on using that offer as leverage) second it was (i had already accepted and resigned but they countered and made a good case).
Don’t feel like you need to sign it to prove yourself in some way! I never got the feeling they were doubting my intentions.
As many have said, once you play this card there is no going back. You have to be prepared to leave if they don’t counter. And depending on your seniority/office relationships, you could be marked as a flight risk or not as dedicated to the company. But getting raises/promos these days can be a struggle.
You know your worth. As long as you move with respect (for yourself and others) and don’t waste people’s time, most will recognize that this is just part of the game. You deserve to be fairly compensated, don’t let politics get in the way of that.
I asked for a raise, they said no, I got a job offer 20k above my current salary, put in my resignation, they tried to counter and match their offer. I left.
Keep in mind it places a note on your back that says you’re looking.
I did at a previous agency and I got about half of what the offer was. I ended up leaving a few
months later but no one was mad about me asking. I felt confident it was okay to ask for more based on my market value. Go for it!
Chat GPT can be a great friend here. Essentially what you're going to say is here is the offer letter from company x, I really don't want to leave but I can't ignore this Gap in compensation.
Be ready to leave if they don't offer you what you want.
They'll ask for an offer letter to validate that it's real, otherwise, people would ask for raises like demands for money and either quit or not. Would be cool to see that become the norm, but alws
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BBDO will only give you more money if you have an offer in hand, and unless you’re a CD or above with a strong client relationship, their counter-offer will be less than the opposition agency’s offer.
For transparency though, I was there during a time when people were clamoring to work there though. So they didn’t care if anyone below CD level left. Replacements were easy to find.
(Though given the current market and thousands of unemployed creatives, they may well still feel anyone can be easily replaced)
Good luck.
I wish I did this 6 months ago. I got a promotion and raise that was well under market rate for the role. Do it, but to the other respondents point, be prepared to leave if you don’t get it!
I did this a few years ago. They immediately countered to match the other offer (I gave them a range and they surprisingly gave me the high end) which I accepted to stay. All good. I know it's in my file but clearly no one cares since I still got promoted about a year later anyway.
Noone is going to give you a raise out of the goodness of their heart. You have to ask and use tactics and arguments to build your case. Having an offer handy is one of the best ones. Just be respectful and don’t burn bridges.
did this and mentioned id stay and got a slight bump (nowhere close to the other offer) but it was enough to get me to stay.
It’s a bit risky. As others have said, be prepared to leave. Also, even if they do match—you may be on the chopping block come layoff time.
Don’t do it unless you’re committed to walking away & taking the new role.
Counter offers are very few & far in between. And even if you do get the counter offer - there’s a flag raised for you being a flight risk.
A better bet is to just ask for what you’re looking for (promo, increase, more visibility, etc). Your BEST bet is to present a case to justify your ask with examples of accomplishments and expression of your potential.
What are the months I should be asking or showing my case, like a few months before Jan when budgets renew?
Do it once and it’s uncomfortable for a short while but basically okay. Do it twice and your card is marked. All of this assumes you’re delivering the goods…
Sort of. I've mentioned before when recruiters have hit me up for jobs with higher pay ranges and said "I like it here, but it's hard to be happy here knowing I'm underpaid for my value."