Asking this for my husband who works at E&Y. Apparently EY has this policy that you need to be employed by EY for at least 12 months to be qualified for the 16 weeks paternity leave. My husband joined EY on 4/6/2020 and our baby is due 3/26/2021, which makes him only a few days short to be eligible for the 16 weeks paternity leave benefit. Just curious if anyone was in the same shoes and was able to successfully negotiate with the firm. TIA!!!!

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My daughter was born before my husband’s first anniversary with EY. However, he took his paternity leave 3 months after his first anniversary and got the full 16 weeks no questions asked.

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Gotcha. Appreciate it!

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We have unlimited vacation. Just work with his teams and take 16 weeks of vacation.

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Can he start the leave later? It is pretty flexible at Deloitte, you can take it pretty much anytime that works for you

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I’d have him check with area leaders. That’s so darn close it’s absurd. I agree this “unlimited PTO” provides a pretty interesting “loop hole” since they could just approve him for extended vacation rather than bending the rules (technically) for parental leave.

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EY 9 you seem to be a policy first, draw the line person right? Ok fair enough. How about this. Unlimited PTO is truly unlimited right? Then why can't he take the unlimited PTO. Are there exceptions or nuances? Are you picking and choosing which policy to stricly enforce and which to not?

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Unlimited PTO, right? So does he really need to have been there a year? Just say you’re taking 16 weeks of PTO since it’s “unlimited.”

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The unlimited PTO has actually reduced the amount of parental leave you can take. Previously you could stack all your vacation together with leave and be gone for up to 6 months or something depending on what you had accrued. Now you need special approval for more than 2 weeks off at a time, I think the limit for parental leave was 3 weeks that you could tack on

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It is 100% based on the baby birth date, even if you are 1 day short they will not give it to you. Sorry. Maybe talk to the people team and see how much vacation he can take.

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That’s what he was told too 🥲

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Seriously, how can they differentiate between you taking unlimited PTO vs. Paternity leave?

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You would have to get each 2-week portion approved a month in advance by the same people each time, so it’s unlikely they would let you do that.

Why not wait a week and take the paternity leave? I know here you have 1 year from birth to take the leave.

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The policy is the baby has to be born after your 1 year anniversary not that you can take the leave any time after your 1 year anniversary. The firm requires proof of birth.

We're sure not interested in hiring women who are already pregnant either. If it happens though, you just get disability portion..

People on this site seem to forget we're running a business not a charity.

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EY7: You may not like my message but please don't attack the messenger.

EY5: You can label it discrimination if you want, but please tell me if you would knowingly hire someone that is say six or seven months pregnant? Please be honest.

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What are the exact terms in the policy? Is it based on baby’s birth?

Yes, based on baby’s birth date. I don’t think my baby can wait till 4/6 lol

Not at EY but my firms policy is that it's a floating leave, meaning you can take it any time after the baby is born, just not within 18 months of taking other paternity leave

I could have sworn you could take paternity after the baby was born and after you’ve been employed a year. I thought it basically “you can’t take paternity in the first year” but I thought you had like a year from the birth to take it?? Apparently we have a horrible policy and I didn’t even know it

This is crazy. So you have to plan ahead and not want to have a baby the first year or you're screwed... do they do something similar to women? Are women forced to take something to delay labor? Geez!!! What century is this?

I think people are trying to debate separate issues. Actual company policy vs. what they feel company policy “should” be. We all have the power of choice, whether to have kids or not. I have worked at Big 4 80+ hours, national firm 55+ hours and have a two year old and one on the way. I received 2 weeks of paid paternity leave for the first one and I won’t receive any paid paternity leave at my current job since I just joined. I knew having kids was my choice and I was aware of the benefits or lack thereof for paternity leave. I think companies like the Big 4 “should” have generous policies for parental leave since you work so much, however I think it is your responsibility to read the handbook and understand your benefits and ask clarifying questions if needed before taking the job or expecting certain benefits. I don’t think people should be upset at existing company policy when you “feel” companies should offer certain benefits. Nobody is forcing you to work at certain companies. If Deloitte or Microsoft or Netflix has better parental leave policies and that is important to you then you should try to work for them. The long hours and environment at Deloitte did not fit my criteria for a good company when starting a family even with their generous parental leave, therefore I knew my future wasn’t with Deloitte.

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Wonder if baby was to born on 4/5 will make him eligible bc technically 4/5 is the 12 month mark

Cant he just take the leave after the 1 year?

😂 Soooo, you just jumped right into commenting huh? I get it, you’re busy, but the thread is a week old and there are 94 comments, and like 92 of them are talking about why he can’t take just take the leave later! It’s like the whole thread is specifically about that. C’mon man!

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