At pwc we Dan tribute pre or post tax to our 401(k). Currently do pre tax. Are there a ton of benefits to switching to just post tax? Does that make it a ROTH 401(k)? If you have a ROTH 401(k) does that roll easily into a ROTH IRA? I’m 30 and my wife and I are trying to really get our crap together. Paid off 42k of debt since out of school two years ago and buying our first house in a month.

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This has been said here a number of times before. Here goes again ...

Roth 401(k) is, for most people, a terrible investment vehicle. Contribute to your traditional 401(k) and lower your current marginal tax rate. Let that pre-tax money grow tax free. In retirement, when your tax bracket is MUCH lower, convert the trad 401(k) into Roth IRA by paying little to no tax.

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It's cumulative. The limit for 401(k) is $19.5k, spread between traditional and Roth, or either. The limit for IRA is $6k, between traditional and Roth, or either.

Yes, post tax is Roth (there is also after tax, which is different). You can technically roll either post or pre into a Roth, but if you’re rolling over pre tax funds you’ll have to pay tax to get them into the Roth account

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Follow up question: does it make sense to contribute to both a roth and traditional 401k to hedge 1) tax rate % and 2) your effective bracket in retirement

did you not know we also get matched on the after tax contribution portion with limits. not really, but what’s good with after tax 401k contribution and pwc is they allow in-service withdrawal. this allows you to roll over to your roth ira which has better options to invest and lower expense ratios

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