Confirmed to me today that another round of layoffs post-CRT is coming 😢

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What about all of our new folks that stayed on the beach forever through no fault of their own! If they would stop being a hierarchy and let people get stuff done without the right "styles" they wouldn't be losing so much money damn! Something has to change!

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It's due to very low voluntary turnover this year and a need to exit underperformers. If you don't fall into the 4/5 bucket don't worry. It's good for the business.

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My source said so long as you've been billable for most of the year, you should not be worried.

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Yes, they do. Even to new hires who screw up during the 2 weeks training (previously in Orlando), like getting belligerent at night. They gave them 2 month severance.

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Confirmed - separate source. Same information.

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Enforced by raising the minimum standards of performance

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What about if you've been w the firm less than a year?

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Across FS for sure. And for new hires, I don't think it applies as much. But I did hear of new hire layoffs the last round

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I don't have any further information. I apologize. 5s represent people who have been on a downward trend and have been given a chance to improve and failed and/or folks who just did not perform well at all and this is known to them. 4s are people who may be given a chance to improve before any further action. Just like in any "curved" ranking system whether it is school or business, there are two scenarios 1. Everyone is amazing and because they can only have certain number of people at each number ranking some people will get screwed (my brother's PhD program was 12 people and they said they will only move 6 people forward..even if people are equally performing because that is how the bell curve works) or 2. There are people who just haven't been pulling their weight and haven't been performing up to standards and need the kick in the pants or need to be cut. The bell curve can be a friend or an enemy...that's why this is a competitive field. While there have been instances of bein blindsided (I personally know of a few), I am just stating the "norm" of the business practice. Layoffs normally happen off-cycle. Normal business practices will follow after rankings.

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Thanks for the clarification. It sounds like the lowest ratings are reserved for people who have not taken the appropriate steps to improve. However, do you have any insight on campus hires in their first year? There has been a lot of low utilization and beach work in my group (me included). Do you know whether this will impact decisions?

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@s&2, promotions aren't announced officially firm wide until promo day, but all those getting promoted (at least to manager) would've found out over the last couple of days and received a compliance email today. It's to give us more time to make sure we are independent/compliant

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OP - which group and vertical?

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HIA as well.

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PwC16 - a Partner on my engagement. Been around for a very long time and always very candid. I do not want to give more details around our convo that may identify me to him.

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Every year nationals gives each group a bell curve of how many people can be ranked 1,2,3,4,5. Those who are 5s will be counseled out. Those who are 4s may or may not be counseled out. This happens every year.

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The difference this time is that many of the people being ranked as 4s would have been 3s in another cycle. It is forced ranking and a bottom percentage has to go. My understanding is that these are people who are not expecting it. Layoff isn't the right word, but OP was right in saying they did it by raising the performance standard.

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This is stupid there are always layoffs after CRT for low performers

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