Considering joining an IPG agency with unlimited PTO. Read a lot of negative things about it. Any tips on managing this for me?

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Depends on the team and the manager. My team works together and takes 4-5 weeks a year.

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Set boundaries early. Get a sense for what bench depth on teams looks like, so you know what you need to communicate and have coverage. (as person in IPG agency with unlimited PTO)

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Set an amount of vacation days you currently have and would typically use in a year and make sure you continue taking the same amount. Otherwise, it’s easy to forget that you have those days to take off

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Not sure you’re going to get much empathy here being a VP touting unlimited vacation

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I’m a VP - I still have a revenue/hours target and can’t just disappear whenever I want for however long I want.

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Unlimited PTO is designed to reduce the companies financial liability. If they let you go they don’t have to pay out accrued vacation time. It’s not a perk and people usually end up taking off less time under this system.

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Negative for you or the team you manage?

I’ve been at several agencies with unlimited PTO both independent and holding and it hasn’t been a problem from the team I manage.

Personally it has enabled me to travel overseas and not rush a vacation. But i did not completely disconnect. I am fine with that and accepted that it’s just part of the job and the role I am in.

As for my teams, it’s only been a few instances of where people have really taken advantage of, meaning 3 or more weeks off in a row, constant a few days off every other week or so etc. but it has not completely negatively effected their performance or the teams. We just ensured back up plans across the teams and had processes in place where there was minimal drop off that the client noticed.

So overall a positive experience.

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I do feel like this is my gripe w unlimited PTO though. Before I had 4 weeks, and no one would have cared it I decided to take it all at once (actually easier to plan for 4 weeks off all at once then lots of shorter vacations). It was my time. But now with unlimited, I feel like I’d be judged for taking large chunks because people are sub-consciously assuming I take more PTO than average.

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Just the mere mention of IPG and that’s clearly never going to be an actual thing

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My agency has had unlimited PTO for about two years now. I am the director of a good size team, and we haven’t had any issues so far! It has to be about respect and everyone having reliable backups!

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People like to complain. Never had an issue with unlimited PTO

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I was at an IPG media agency out in LA. There were people who took advantage of the unlimited PTO. But I noticed my team would make snide comments about it. No one on my direct team of 15+ took a lot of PTO. Personally I never felt comfortable taking days.

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To start, plan 10 days for the full year that you will be sticking to and then everything on top of that is extra. That way you know you’ll take the bare minimum but try to take 3-4 times that. I work at an IPG Health agency and people take lots of PTO no problem. I love unlimited pto.

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Unlimited PTO isn’t real anywhere, it’s just a way for agencies to avoid paying for unused PTO when you leave…

That being said, when we started it I went from 20 to 30 days PTO. As long as you space them out and thing are getting done I haven’t seen anyone run into issues at that level.

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Negative about the agency or of unlimited pto in general?

Unlimited PTO. There is no perfect agency.

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The agency or unlimited pto?

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