For anyone that transitioned into a staff role at your law firm, how did you successfully make the switch?

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I recommend being willing to start at close to entry level, get your hands very dirty and be willing to jump firms quickly thereafter. You can’t fully change the perception people have of you staying at your current firm. Your new team will be resentful if you’re placed in too senior of role. Many lawyers will assume you couldn’t hack it. Starting over at a new firm where you control the perception more fully is helpful.

I did this and am happy I made the switch. Opportunity came up in my group that I thought would be interesting and I went for it.

I’m working with the same group that I was an associate in, but left for several years before coming back so am more familiar with the more senior attorneys. I feel I still have a good reputation and relationship with those attorneys, but am looked at a bit differently by the more junior attorneys who I never worked with while an associate - they see me more as support staff rather than a peer. I worked in house before so I had experience being part of operations rather than the revenue generator. Just an aspect you have to get used to if you transition out of being an associate and depends greatly on the people you work with.

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