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I am a second year manager and always thought I wanted to be partner. After experiencing the balancing act of doing the compliance, giving excellent client service, mentoring staff, making sure all the administrative tasks are completed (our EAs don’t help with those), billing, being in charge of internal leadership activities, hitting charge goals and selling work….. along with learning all the new processed and softwares that they are constantly changing. I am completely burned out. I have 2 young kids and don’t want to miss anymore class parties or field trips. I’m currently interviewing for a tax director position in industry. No overtime and I’ll get about a 25% increase in my base. I’m sure staying and making partner would be way more money. I’d rather have the time with my family than the cash. I already am happy with what I make now so this career switch will be for the work life balance. The short answer, yes my opinion has changed over time.
This is super helpful response AND I’ve coached many people who created a similar experience within their same organization in terms of reducing their responsibilities. That 25% raise is 🔥. I’m afraid many firms would balk at that….and then go spend 35% to replace the role. 🤪
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I always find it interesting when people say they don’t want to sell.
The best that I have seen don’t really sell. They bring ideas and solutions to clients and targets based on both their experience in the field and the technical insight they have gained along the way. For those that do it best, it’s not selling as much as it is getting engaged to execute on ideas. I look at those that do it well and successfully and see that as a unique talent, but also one that you should strive for in this field.
This is not selling a product in the traditional tangible good sense.
Some people feel uncomfortable selling their expertise; it drives up self-with issues and imposter syndrome.
I also find it interesting because it today’s world firms have a greater need for people to take over existing books than to bring in new business.
I think I want to either cap out at SM and do something else or be an MD in a technical role. Don't want to be a partner because I don't want to sell.
I wanted to and was very close to making partner but changed my mind and left public accounting completely. I actually have the personality type to be a partner and think I would have been successful. However, I see a lot of problems with the industry and certainly don't want to become an owner in a firm and inherit those systemic issues. I also frankly don't want to work 80 hours a week most weeks which is what most partners at my firm were doing. When I first started in public, you paid your dues early on with horrible hours and then partners had it pretty good. It is no longer like that due to staffing shortages. The pay of partner is not worth the lifestyle, for me.
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No. I never thought I'd be manager. Ready to dip out
I used to. Not anymore. I understand they’re paid well , but what I’ve learned is, even if you’re a partner , there’s always going to be a higher up partner hounding you for work.