Have been on and off the wagon for the past 7 years, have never done a program or treatment. Source of huge conflict in my marriage. Last night I was off the wagon at a retirement party. My wife called when I didn’t respond to a text after 30 minutes. When I picked up she could tell, and rightfully blew up at me. Talking about divorce or having me move out for a while. Feeling very low right now. I am scared of failing at making a permanent change, and pissed at myself for F-ing up again

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Have been there. It's actual hell and I'm sorry you are stuck in it.

Almost at two years sober/AF. The key for me was a 30 day residential treatment center, which was the best experience of my life. I had to break the cycle of constant relapse and withdrawal, and for me going it alone just wasn't going to happen.

Feel free to DM if I can help.

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AA is the perfect place to find someone to talk to, you just have to be willing to accept that you can't do this alone.

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My marriage nearly ending was the wake up call I needed personally…but crucially it led me to the biggest light bulb that I needed to get sober for me, not for anyone else. The truth that dawned on me, was that drinking was just not as fun as it was in my twenties, and the amount of badness it brought to my life far outweighed the good. All the things I thought alcohol gave me - fun, courage, energy, etc - were actually what it stripped away from me and replaced when I drank it. We all find our own reasons to quit, the fear of failing can be real but the trick is to not plan to quit forever etc - just plan to set health goals that you want to achieve that are specific and start working towards them. I want to overcome my constant fatigue, my social anxiety, my bloating and heartburn, by blotchy skin etc - when I stopped focusing on quitting alcohol and instead gaining my health, that fear of failing went away. Hope this helps!

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Many of us have been there. I reached a point where I realized I couldn't trust myself. I tried to manage it and balance it for 15 years. I even had three different times I was threatened with divorce. I'd feel low, I'd quit cold turkey for a few months or maybe over a year. It was miserable though. I hated life without alcohol. There was no final "event" when I decided to finally give up and get some help. I was just tired of trying to balance it all. Best decision of my life hands down. There has been so much more to it than just "not drinking" - the program has taken my life to another gear. But don't be too hard on yourself, if you might be an alcoholic... You can't really control it. Only thing you can control is what you're going to do about it. My suggestion is ask for help. There are people ready and waiting to help you.

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Also, feel free to DM. Happy to chat.

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Thanks to both of you. I may take you up on the DM offer. I hate wanting to kick my own ass, especially for doing this around the holidays, and I’m dreading the conversation when I get home. I appreciate your taking time for this.

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No specific questions but appreciate any thoughts. Nobody I can talk to about this.

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