Help!! Our 10-year-old is out of control and destroying our family. He always had behavioral issues but quarantine has made our lives a living hell. (Cont’d)

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I’m going to get yelled and abused for this, I would spank the kid.

Yes may cause psychological issues and yada yada, but I grew up fine so did my sister and most of my friends.

Full disclosure, I am Indian, this was and is still acceptable in india ( may shock folks here or not), but it works.

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Yeah that’s my question!! There is so much extreme in the conversation.

My son has been diagnosed with sensory processing issues, executive functioning issues and ADD. The quarantine is particularly difficult on kids who need a routine - which is most kids with attention issues.

A few things to consider:
1) exercise is non negotiable. Get him a pair of running shoes and go jogging with him every day. Like...every day. Maybe even twice per day. Do you have a basketball hoop? Can he hit tennis balls against the wall? Can he carry heavy piles of books from one end of the house to the other?

2) if someone is screaming, you’ve already lost control. Don’t scream - don’t engage. Walk away. I realize this can be easier said than done, but no one wins if it becomes a screaming match. Just don’t engage. Leave the room, leave the house - know your own triggers and do not engage.

3) Time outs don’t work for some kids, including mine. When my son acted up, I would make him do jumping jacks or sprints. His teachers did the same.

4) if this is something chemical, watch what and when he eats. If his blood sugar is spiking and crashing, it’s going to make things much worse. Don’t let him eat total junk and make sure he’s eating on a regular basis.

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This, just this.

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Google creative military punishments and take your pick.

In all seriousness I would just work him. Someone else mentioned exercise and I think that is a great idea. Push ups, flutter kicks, and burpees can all be done in a small area.

Don’t be afraid to ask for help. Always walk away if you need to.

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I’m sensing a theme here — exercise, no matter what. I’ll certainly try that. The quarantine has made it more difficult for sure.

My brother was very similar. Exercise was extremely important. Every. single. Day. Also my parents had to change our whole family’s diet. Absolutely no artificial dyes. We reduced carbs overall but especially simple ones that break down quickly.
Anything with red dye 5 in it within minutes would turn my brother into a psychopath that we thought would murder us.

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Have you asked him how he is feeling and why?

Or asked what he wants?

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I get that video games may be what he *wants*, and that the stuff you want him to do isn't the stuff he wants to do, but try to get him to talk about how he *feels* and why. It's important to reach a level of understanding that isn't just "do what we want or else." That isn't fixed by meds. Figure out an incentive system for him, and ask for his input on what is fair and unfair and why. Let him have some measure of control over his life and situation.

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Meds can help - or they can make a bad situation worse if you get the wrong medicine.

I would exhaust him - if he complains about a bike ride, stick in some earplugs, bribe him with his favorite electronics and force him out the door. Don’t let him on the TV until he’s exercised to the point of exhaustion. It sounds like there is something chemical going on and exercise can be very helpful in helping to balance his moods and extreme behavior.

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ACD I’m sorry this is happening. Please consider a medical evaluation. This sounds like a cognitive issue.

You can get through this.

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Man if you don’t whoop his lil az! You the parent not him. Watch the Bernie Mac show, hm he’ll show you

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Funny reading this thread. Therapy and medicine. Seems like the American thing to do is throw money at it and it’ll be better, guess what y’all not every family has money to spend on their kid for therapy/counseling. Sometimes that works or sometimes a small whooping works. It depends on the kid, the culture etc.

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I agree to an extent on the medicine, but yeah therapy sounds like really poor advice. Getting to know your kid better, understand what’s going on, talk out some of the issues- what a bad idea for better relationships!

Silent treatment seems like a winner per some posts above

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Our kid was like this, we got him into play therapy where we actually found he had SPD. Also got him into OT and now a special school for kids with spectrum and spectrum like conditions. Behaviour in kids is usually a outlet when they can’t express in words or consciously what they want/need. 18m later he’s much more in control and while we’re still working on everything, it’s much better. He’s caring and empathetic once he started getting “what he needed” to keep regulated. Feel free to DM, happy to chat - oh and no medication used at all.

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How is his physical health?

If it is fine I would encourage taking long runs the morning to burn some energy. At the same time try aunt family activities where he gets to be the “boss”. He then starts seeing things from your angle.

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Crowe 1 - a quick google search should show you lots of analysis of that very issue. Yes, a lot has changed - particularly with our expectations of performance of kids and how we treat the school day. Kids are expected to master skills much earlier, homework has increased, anxiety is through the roof. As you can tell from my posts, I’m a big believer in exercise for kids. Kids spend much less time outdoors and playing than they used to. We expect children to basically sit still for 8 hours/day and when they don’t or can’t, we look for ways to control their behavior. In the “old days,” a fidgety kid wouldn’t be expected to sit still for so long and would be getting much more physical activity. Also - you might recall kids who used to drink 3-5 Mountain Dews a day. Caffeine (and other stimulants) have the opposite effect on people with attention issues - so basically kids have been self medicating for years.

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Exercise. Bring him on runs. If you do not run, start. It’ll help with the stress you’re collecting. If you think he’ll be a little shit and run away from you, get a child leash. He won’t have the energy to throw tantrums if you tore him out. Source: puppy owner. Situation sounds similar lmao

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Can you write down on a board or even a piece of paper every time he screams, breaks things with those categories listed? And say that for every time he does either of those (or other violent actions), he will lose something he likes? He needs to know that actions have consequences. I agree that there is a mental element here, and I don’t think spanking is an option. Some people are visual and need to see facts, maybe he doesn’t believe he acts up 10 times a day (or whatever it is). You might ask him, do you think this is acceptable behavior? What do you think I should do? How would you like it if I acted up like that? He’s old enough to know right from wrong.

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Thanks, we’re trying elements of that, but good advice.

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"He was like this beforehand, but at least he went to school.."????? WTAF? So you're one of 'those parents' who dump your kids with social and behavioral issues on the school system. Sack up and get your child some professional help.

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It’s tomorrow.

I would remove all sugar caffeine and grains from his diet. Not as a cure, but to lessen the fuel for his rage.

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Let this be a lesson to people who think they may want kids.

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Is it just me or do all of the responses on this thread just seem way out of line?

Unless you guys think you are perfect parents, I would suggest to start with an apology to the kid. Accept that you may have not taken the time to understand him / his perspective and that you’d like to make amends. And ask if he’d be willing to talk.

2 reasons for doing it this way -
1. Kids maybe young but they still deserve the same respect as any adult. If they’re being dismissed, they would not have an avenue to discuss their thoughts and feelings.
2. Kids learn from how their parents deal with situations. Respect them so in turn they would be respectful to you and others.

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Are you able to go outdoors or do you have any gaming systems/screen time items that he enjoys?

It doesn't sound like he has ADHD, anxiety, or depression, which are the most commonly medicated disorders, so much as extreme disrespect for you and your wife; disregard for authority is not the same thing as an attention disorder. Unless he is generally extremely fidgety and unfocused instead of... Well, it sounds like angry.

Do you have games you can play with your son? A collaborative experience. Talking with boys often works best side by side with a low level distraction rather than face to face. You may be able to suss significantly more about what’s bothering your son in this environment.

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This is hard. Especially if both parents are not aligned. As one parent will be more strict than the other, giving the kid further fuel to hate them and everyone else in the future.
Military school might be the only real long term viable solution.

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