How do Americans view Tsinghua vs Harvard or Cambridge? Is it more or less prestigious?

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As an Asian American if I come across someone who went there I would perceive them as smart but in terms of prestige I would say they’re around a top 50 school in the US. Around a Penn State. Not close to Harvard Cambridge or even top Public’s like Berkeley ucla

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Asian American and this sounds about right. For the average person I wouldn’t count on any recognition, let alone prestige.

Is this the Asian beer? It's pretty good but I'm not sure why it's being compared to universities.

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Wait. That's Tsingtao. Never mind.

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We don’t view it

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That’s the only right answer. Never heard of it before

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We don’t think about it at all. This is literally the first time I’ve heard of it.

So maybe more prestigious than community college and less than Arizona State?

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SM1 gave the perfect ignorant answer. The sad reality is that vast majority of Americans know only about Ivy leave and Oxbridge; these people don’t even read univ rankings worldwide. Plenty of universities across the globe that for the past few years have continuously improved and got higher than several Ivy league ones (e.g. Tsinghua ranks #16 in the latest US published ranking, hence above Princeton and Cornell).
That said, in reality Chinese universities have never been able to market themselves right; if I wasn’t so deeply involved with APAC, I would have known only Fudan (that ranks below Tsinghua in most rankings but does a much better job when it comes to present itself to the world outside China…)

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I preferred Tsingtao

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This was funny 😂😂😂

We barely acknowledge European universities, Canadian ones even less so and literally do not consider anything else. It is what it is.

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The average American doesn’t really know or care about Canadian colleges

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In my experience most Americans don't know any colleges/universities outside of the US

The only consistent exception is Oxford

Cambridge.. often gets mistaken for the city in Massachusetts

But then again who cares what the average American thinks. Layman's prestige gets you diddly squat

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Same

And if they heard about some connection with Cambridge they probably think he grew up in Cambridge MA

Never heard of it

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Sorry, never heard of it. I had to Google it - and I'm a B4 partner in the US. I'm sure our Chinese partners know it well.

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And yet almost nobody is aware, so maybe you’re wrong and there’s no need.

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I went to Harvard and never heard of Tsinghua. Sorry.

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No idea what Tsinghua is … is it the light lager that I get in Chinatown?

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Also note that OP will now run from this thread faster than a Chinese soldier facing a Sudanese militia

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I love being right, haha

Went to an Ivy and have never heard of it

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Americans do not know it.

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Tbh it’s not on most American’s radars at all. I know of it because I have a PhD in a physical science field and I have friends who are professors there. It’s a fantastic school. From what I can tell, the AVERAGE student (at least in sciences) at Tsinghua is just leagues more advanced than the average undergrad STEM major at Harvard (I’ve taught at Harvard). The critical thinking, not just passing exams, is there in a way that I think we’re rapidly losing in US higher ed, especially since the pandemic.

That said, I only know this because I’ve worked in academia. I don’t know any American outside of academia who knows what Tsinghua is unless they have a reason to know about Chinese education broadly, e.g., has lived in Asia. On the other hand, we all know what Oxford and Cambridge are. It just takes time, potentially centuries, to build a name like Harvard, Oxford, etc

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0 SEC championships. Not relevant

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People in mediocre firms like the above won’t know it. But there are a lot of schwartzman scholars at top firms

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You mean every firm outside of MBB won’t know.

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I see our friend is back

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I may not be a good sample for an american bc i went to Fudan and overall like c9 but i think its a great school. Right below H and C and with a very different network / opp that it provides students

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I really don’t want to be insulting, but I’ve only heard of Fudan or Peking university in china, INSEAD in Singapore, and Uni of Tokyo (bc, obviously it’s in Tokyo). That is 100% coverage of my awareness of Asian Unis. If I got a CV with anything else, I wouldn’t count against you, just like I wouldn’t if you went to a Penn State or Texas A&M. But I wouldn’t give you a ‘bump’ for the name alone.

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