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Please evaluate this initial offer for Apple ICT3. I think I was low balled, but I want to take more opinions. Currently Sr. MTS at VMware, received Apple ICT3. I was expecting to get to ICT4 but seems like team thinks upper end of ICT3 is more apt. Also, I think it is because I don’t have any counter offers yet.
Received offer
Base: 185k
Sign on: 40k
RSU: 160k/4 years (Here is where I think it is low)
Location: Cupertino,CA
Current TC
229k
YOE: 3.5 years US / 6.5 overall(similar roles)
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Like my compadres have expressed, there could be a number of reasons. If you feel confused about their actions, then clearly it’s not you. Don’t dwell on it. Use your time to build on your strengths and strengthen your weaknesses. You gained exposure to the work flow, now you have a blueprint. Think of it as an opportunity and not a set back. I have had this happen to me before and then realized after I landed a great opportunity that it had a purpose. You got this!
Someone condemned me for “toxic positivity” before. What’s wrong with people…
While i dont disagree with you, the term used - 'toxic positivity' - is an accurate term. If everyone took this point of view whenever they get screwed by these companies, why would the companies ever change? Anger has purpose and sometimes people need to get angry. Your cringe positivity only lends to cover for these types of business practices. Either don't over hire, or eat the small loss. Companies today don't pay for anything. Its all put onto the customer/employee to make up. Need to go back to the times of some business losses are just "the cost of doing business".
This did not sound like the ideal work environment for you. I would be glad I found out early and try to find a more suitable team to work with.
You were on the other side of the coin toss
I have had two similar experiences. One job I worked at for 3 years under one manager and never had an issue. I was given compliments about my work and every other week during our 1:1 rounding, everything was fine. After a slight team reshuffle I got a new manager… again no issues with them from sprint until late summer. Yet they could never fully tell me what the issues were. Just that “you’re having performance issues”. When she got HR involved I ask “what areas would you like me to focus improvement on so that I can target whatever issues I’m having”. HR literally cut my boss off and said that it was their responsibility to tell me how to improve based off the feedback they’d given me.
6 weeks later ( due to thanksgiving, Christmas, new years). I hadn’t heard a peep or had a check in. I go to my 1:1 as normal.. fired. But got a spiffy 4 months severance with a neat little NDA to sign in exchange for it. Now I know the difference between being fired.. and effed over. Being fired doesn’t come with money and legal contracts.
The job I went to after that… yall… long story short some manager from a different department just did not like me. It was weird. I had started in the spring and they were out on fmla for back surgery. They came back late summer and only came in 1 day a week. I met her one time which was just a casual introduction.
A few weeks later it was my birthday. She asked someone who was my friend (guess she didn’t know that). To take me out for drinks at lunch and bring me back so she could take me to the company nurse for blood alcohol testing and get me fired.. I never knew about that until this lady got herself embroiled in a real HR fire storm and everything was coming to the surface on how she weaponizes co workers - against co workers. I was stunned. She got fired a couple weeks ago though.
So OP, yes. I’m here to validate that you might be right to think they just didn’t like you. And what’s awful, there’s nothing you can do.
I had a couple early morning typos:
*from spring to late summer
*it wasn’t her responsibility to tell me where I needed to improve
i hear you, my friend. Exact same thing happened to me recently. I had to leave my solid permanent job (even though it was low paid, mgmt was great) to grab this offer. But we all learn from mistakes. End of the day, we all are numbers to them.
It's better to be gone from that toxic work place than be stuck there for years.
Sounds like you work for OCHIN? A ellos no les gusta el blanco
That's there preferred weapon "terminated for performance"
You did nothing wrong. That is really bad of your co-worker, manager and company. Praying for you.
Sometimes it’s personality, other times it could be that you lacked the skill sets the organization was looking for. Did you take a role that was too advanced for you? You said you weren’t trained, perhaps you lacked the skills. Accountability. Owning it helps
Seeing a new-ish coworker of mine just get fired, I am sorry you had to go through this.
In the case of my coworker however, there’s usually more to “performance” reasons. With the case of my coworker, it was discovered was he was working odd hours and not regular business hours. He wasn’t responding to communications or reach-outs on slack or video calls in a timely manner.
My superiors mentioned how his resume claimed to be an expert in certain tools but when put in a situation utilizing such tools, he needed simple and basic explanation from us, calling coworkers for help and direction when the manager was available all day.
Ultimately it was the communication mishaps that left a sour taste in the managers. I’m sure he was doing his assigned tasks correctly and when I reviewed his work, it was spotless. It’s just he wasn’t readily available when we needed him.
Sorry to hear this. I deal a lot with new hires and trainees. There's always multiple reasons why people get let go, not always your fault, but with that said, it very well could be your fault.
I see numerous issues with trainees.
1. You're a know it all.
2. You're not focused on the task at hand because it's boring. This sends the wrong signal.
3. Your attitude stinks.
4. Your personality is a turnoff to others.
Whatever the real reason is, just be aware of yourself and how others perceive you.
this was exactly like my experience working for pepin distributing here in tampa.
What's the tech name as I never gave you a bad report I'm tax revenue is not far away from Niagra falls through
It looks like a toxic environment with little or no values and process for the money the business must waste on training. I have been fired so that someone else could hire their wife instead because the wife lost her other job. Rude and value-less.