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Hello ZSers,
I have been shortlisted for AC role and my HR discussion is scheduled next week.
1. Need some insights on the maximum and minimum ctc (fixed and variable) that can be offered for 3 yoe (all relevant) . My current ctc is 7.2 (6.5 fixed) . Tech stack - Big data and AWS developer.
2. Is there any joining bonus. If yes , what should be the ask.
Any inputs will be very helpful for me to go with my expectations to the HR. Thanks!
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I have just been told by my POC that the hiring for chat is on hold and they are not certain when they will start the hiring for chat. I gave the interview for chat last month and I was told that I have cleared all the rounds and my joining will be from the next month (July) but now all of a sudden they are saying this.
I am scared and don't know what should I do.
Does anyone know when they will start the hiring for chat?BT British Telecom
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Putting out fires and managing a lot of different types of issues is its own skill set. A lot of lawyers in big in house departments are so used to farming out issues to various specialists, they completely lack that skill set. What you’re doing is much more aligned with the skills needed for a GC type role, where most big company in house lawyers are too specialized.
I've been doing this for 8 years, currently the sole counsel for an overseas foreign company in the US. Jack of all trades. Every day is different. From litigation, compliance, privacy , general corporate , product counseling to employment — you name it, even non legal issues. Am I a specialist in any area? No. But I think I know a little bit of everything to can get the job done . And seek outside counsel help when needed.
But the fire drills is real. You just gotta try to do a little bit everyday to improve things or delicate to outside counsel. Prioritize what’s important.
Being part of a lean legal team helps you grow as a lawyer exponentially faster. You think across different legal areas and have to make difficult judgment calls. You learn how to execute and think like a business operator. I think bigger companies have playbooks for everything and it’s plug and play; you don’t know why those were built in a certain way, and people outsource and delegate everywhere. If you want to coast that’s fine. I think the value in being at a large corporation is seeing what mature/developed/sophisticated legal departments should look like ultimately. If you are always at a startup, you don’t know better.
I’m currently considering a move to another lean team and I’d wondered this myself. In my industry the big companies have very silo’d attorneys but they have internal mobility. Where I am now and where I’m hoping to go it’d be a lot of everything.
Being a part of lean teams in-house taught me more than just about any other experience. I went back to Biglaw (turns out some lean teams can be exhausting) but the experience of doing that for ~4 years has made me way more valuable to clients. I understand more of their issues at a business and practical level, am better at spotting issues that will create problems long-term (instead of deferring to precedent) because I have lived and resolved those problems, and feel more confident dealing with new things after that experience. If you have the energy to do it for at least a few years, I highly recommend it from a development perspective.
Ty! By deals do you mean M&A? Or more like commercial partnerships? Can’t imagine tech companies outsourcing the latter to firms for $$$
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I did what you’re mentioning. I did have some additional learning to do now that I dive deeper and focus more on particular areas. I like it though, less stressful